How are the new 22's?

20dauntless · Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:37 pm Post subject: How are the new 22's?

A number of you were at the new factory this weekend for the fiberglass/gelcoat class and have mentioned the exceptional build quality and improvements to the 22. For those of us who couldn't be there and haven't seen Triton's work up close, and for potential new boat buyers, can anyone share some details about the new boats? Any photos would be great, too.

And Triton seems to deserve credit for doing great work. Keep it up!

Captains Cat · Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:44 pm Post subject:

Lots of photos of all boats on the factory site. A dealer in NC said he'd seen a few of the new ones from Triton and they were the best C-Dorys he'd ever seen. I plan to see for myself at SBS 11.

Charlie

localboy · Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:49 pm Post subject:

Very nice quality of fit & finish. They used small items that to me were a vast improvement. For instance; on the rub rail instead of the very cheezy black plastic ends on my '07, they had shiny stainless (?) end fittings; 90 degree elbows at the stern and a nice one piece up front. Overall quality looked great; even in 'hidden' spots the glass layup etc was neat & clean. The roof of the house appeared to have been glassed up even on the exterior. On my '07 it's just sealed with a black sealant and not very neatly either. Just a few quick observations on my part.

rogerbum · Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:22 pm Post subject:

A few other items I noticed.
1) The water fill has been moved back about 4". Now it is just behind the bulkhead instead of just in front of the little step up on the walkway. The step up is designed so that when water runs back along the edges of the cabin on the walk way, it hit the step up and rolls off the side instead of into the cockpit. With the water fill just in front of it, water could gather there. If the fill tube wasn't sealed properly, water could run inside the cabin. That was the source of a leak on my boat just after delivery and it took me a long time to figure it out. Apparently Scott could see it coming and without ever having been aware of such a problem having occurred, fixed it for all future CD 22 owner.
2) The bilge has been permanently moved to a bilge well in the aft end (where it belongs). The bilge pump has been upgraded to a Rule 2000. Good move.
3) The bottom of the fiberglass below the gunnels and wrapping around to under the transom is now finished with a nice aluminum edge (instead of the black plastic edging. Much nice look.
4) As Mark noted the corners and the termination on all the rub rails are now nice stainless pieces. Very solid and MUCH nicer looking.
5) Under the trademark C-Dory stripe, the factory has added a thin color contrasting pin-stripe. It really brightens up the look. It looked very cool to me.
6) The doors on the cabinetry are now standard as teak doors. Much nicer.
7) The boats are now all equipped with a standard wiring harness that hooks to a "dealer bus". Dealers are now (or soon will be) supplied with a standardized and recommended wiring diagram. That will make the boats more standardized and much easier to trouble shoot in the future.

I'm sure there are dozens of other little things I didn't notice but the key thing to me was that many of the little annoying things that a real BOATER would recognize as a problem or an annoyance are fixed in the newer builds. That's because Scott who oversees the builds IS A REAL BOATER. He's been on boats since he was a kid and spent many years working as a commercial fisherman. So he's not just a boat builder, he's a life long boater and he knows what is right and what will be annoying in the future. He can and does change the designs and builds to take care of all those small things.

I also had a nice talk with Scott after the class. He's acutely aware of the benefits that the factory gets buy selling direct and/or repairing what they built (and what the previous factories built). This allows him and the other builders to see and "own" the problems in the design. This in turn results in design changes to reduce the problems. As long as the factory stays engaged at this level, the designs will rapidly improve and ultimately will approach perfection.

I'm certain there are dozens of other minor changes to the 22 that Scott has made that I didn't notice. However, all the changes that I did notice were quite clever and will only improve the boat. Based on that, I think the line is in good hands.

ghone · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:12 am Post subject:

Am I excited or what! Great news, the boat looks so well done, I wanna go burn some gas. George

20dauntless · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:49 pm Post subject:

Thanks for sharing Charlie, Mark, and Roger. It sounds like the company is in great hands!

Matt Gurnsey · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:55 pm Post subject:

sjboysen · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:56 pm Post subject:

No Matt, we are not selling factory direct. Rogers comment was related to the fact that I find that the quickest way for us to resolve a problem in either the design or our build is for us to do the repairs and for us to have the direct interaction with the boat owners as they are the ones using the boat.

I hope that this clears it up, but if you have concerns please give us a call to discuss further.

Scott

rogerbum · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:16 pm Post subject:

Captains Cat · Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 2:34 pm Post subject:

centerisland · Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:51 am Post subject:

forrest · Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:40 pm Post subject:

I have been lusting after C-Dorys since the mid 90's and going over them with a fine toothed comb. The new ones are so far above anything that the Tolands, Reynolds, or Fluid Marine ever built, given that I had the resources, I would never buy used over a new Triton built C-Dory. The new ones are that much better.
Forrest

thataway · Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:49 pm Post subject:

Forrest--what makes them better?

colobear · Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:09 pm Post subject:

Not sure if this will help but FWIW here it is.

I can give only my personal take. We have a 2006 22' cruiser and have been happy with it. But there is evidence of some sloppiness in secondary fit and finish. For example we had to have a repair on a the water tank vent because it was incorrectly placed, not installed properly and led to a minor water leak. Not a crisis, nothing to cause concern over basic structures, just a "care-less" mistake showing lax quality control. We have used the boat a lot and have over 700 hours on the engines and see no cracks, separations etc. Having said that, I've been to the new factory twice and the pride in workmanship is very evident. I have seen several small changes that give evidence of thoughtfulness and high standards. I like what I see. I suspect the new boats are better built than mine is but have no worries about my own boat.

ghone · Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:00 pm Post subject:

I believe my Kerri On to be the first of the 2011 boats. Like Barry said the quality of care is really evident. Very neat workmanship, superior gelcoat finish inside, the fittings are robust all the way around even hinges on cabinet doors are heavy duty. Teak for cabinet doors, all the wiring is very well done.

My 19 was done by Fluid Marine and to a very high standard. The new 22 is several notches above that one. I have been thru the whole boat and it all looks very well done.

Now getting out cruising is in order. George