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If you were equiping your C-Dory today (new or repower), what brand of outboard(s) would you choose for main power?
Evinrude
10%
 10%  [ 38 ]
Honda
36%
 36%  [ 138 ]
Johnson
0%
 0%  [ 1 ]
Mercury
3%
 3%  [ 12 ]
Suzuki
26%
 26%  [ 101 ]
Yamaha
21%
 21%  [ 81 ]
Other
1%
 1%  [ 4 ]
Total Votes : 375

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:04 pm    Post subject: Outboard Choice, 2010 Reply with quote

A little over five years ago we ran this same poll. The thread and poll results can be seen here. It has been suggested that we run it again to see if people and/or the market have changed, so here it is.

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OK - you are getting new power for your C-Dory, for whatever reason. Which brand are you going to buy? Same drill as the last poll: 2 stroke, 4 stroke, single main or twins, it doesn't matter. Who is the manufacturer?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted for Johnson, since our C-Dory sports two of them and have been trouble free. (I did have Johnson previously and didn't enjoy it as much, but in its' defense the Johnson I had at the time was carburated).

However to legitimize the poll any of the Johnsons such as mine are actually Suzuki engines.

That being said, at the end of the poll, the Johnson and Suzuki scores should be added together, or perhaps .......just change the choices to read "Suzukison" Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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just change the choices to read "Suzukison". Rolling Eyes


Laughing Sort of like "Mercissanatsu". Or is it "Tohissanury" Confused

I voted Suzuki, but I"m confident any modern FI 4 stroke made by a well known Japanese manufacturer would be comparable.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BRP killed the Johnzuki brand a number of years ago ,they dont want to sell any of those troublesome, polluting 4 strokes . So I would include Nissan/Tohatsu in this mix . They are great motors and a viable choice in my humble and biased opinion.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaveS wrote:
(I did have Johnson previously and didn't enjoy it as much, but in its' defense the Johnson I had at the time was carburated).


Should have read..."did have Honda previously.....the Honda I had at the time was carburated".

durn timer on these comments... Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted for Yamaha. Always starts, always runs, always brings be back home. And I always have 2 Razz incase I need a kicker.

I just went back and read the posts from the 5 YO thread. Some fun dialog there, and sure a different outcome on the poll.

Mile, thanks for bringing it back up.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some others vote for Yamaha too. Wink



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes choosing a motor is more than what brand you like or heard is best. I originally wanted Yamaha but they didn't make a 15 HP kicker with remote control. Yamaha only had the tiller model in 15 HP and you had to do some conversion to get it remote. Also to start it manually you had to take off the motor cover and wrap a rope around the fly wheel. Suzuki also didn't have a 15 HP with remote control. I wanted remote control for the kicker at my rear helm.
There wasn't much difference to me what brand of main motor that I was looking at. Suzuki, Yamaha and Honda were the three finalists. Etec was interesting but I thought they weren't out long enough to form an opinion about reliability. I do have friends who have issues with Etec so I'm glad I didn't go that route. Honda had the following advantages for the kicker which made the final cut. First, Honda model for model had a larger alternator to keep the batteries charged while fishing and running the radar in the fog while trolling. A four thousand watt radar uses lots of battery up if the alternator can't keep up with it. Second the Honda had a 15 HP remote control model and Yamaha and Suzuki didn't. I know the whole 8HP is plenty for a kicker argument. I got that from the Y and S salesmen. I fish offshore a lot and would rather have the extra power when crossing the bar in the event that the main would fail. Also the 15 HP model had a bigger alternator which helped point one. Last and most important was Honda has a starter rope included in the motor cowling on their remote models. If the batteries run down, all I have to do is manually start the 15 HP kicker and charge a battery up enough to fire up the big guy. I know this works because I had one battery fail and the house load ran down the other battery. The backup plan worked perfectly. The kicker started with the pull rope and charged up the battery enough to fire up the 200HP and get back home.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hardee wrote:
Some others vote for Yamaha too. Wink



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Harvey-

That boat looks the same as the last time you showed it to us a few weeks ago!

Maybe you ought to check out the Boat Scum Removal thread (?) Smile

Joe. Laughing Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hardee wrote:
I voted for Yamaha. Always starts, always runs, always brings be back home. And I always have 2 Razz incase I need a kicker.


I've got Yamaha and I should be ashamed for voting against them (for Suzuki) because the Yamahas have been very reliable for me, plus they are the standard (parts, service etc.) in the remoter areas of BC and Mexico (next time you are up there, pay attention to what the locals run!) All that said, the gearing and power/weight ratios of the Suzukis is compelling.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The latest word from BRP on Johnson Outboard Motors from their website: http://www.johnson.com/en-US/Index.htm

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Johnson is a part of BRP's heritage and many Johnson engines are still on the water. BRP will continue to manufacture Johnson parts and offer service for Johnson parts for existing engines. Distributors and dealers in all markets will continue to have access to spare parts to support continued enjoyment of Johnson powered boats. We are contemplating the various options that exist to perpetuate the Johnson brand and will share further information as it is readily available.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had up to five Hondas at one time and one Yamaha and I voted for Yamaha. The primary reasons were:

a. Open platform, you can get engine data and view it on multiple devices. No need for proprietary gauges.
b. Parts available both locally and on line.
c. Good source of technical assistance both on line and locally.
d. Excellent corrosion resistance.
e. Diagnostic software and engine manuals readily available.

Hondas I have had: BF20, BF25, BF90D, and two BF150s. Hondas I still have: 20, 25, and two 150's. Yamaha I have: F150.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW-

Evinrude and Suzuki have NMEA 2000 data available, so again, no proprietory gauges. Actually, Yamaha isn't using NMEA 2000, but there is a conversion unit available. Command Link II may be NMEA 2000.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sea Wolf Said:
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"Harvey-
That boat looks the same as the last time you showed it to us a few weeks ago!
Maybe you ought to check out the Boat Scum Removal thread (?)"


Joe, It's not my boat Cry It is in my "Other C-Dorys We've Seen" album. I have talked to the owner and he says if he cleans it all up, he doesn't catch as many crab. Rolling Eyes

Sorry if I bored you with the photo Embarassed

I need to learn photo shop and spiff it up that way.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harvey-

No problem, just being my occasional wise-ass self!

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