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If you were equiping your C-Dory today (new or repower), what brand of outboard(s) would you choose for main power? |
Evinrude |
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10% |
[ 38 ] |
Honda |
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36% |
[ 138 ] |
Johnson |
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0% |
[ 1 ] |
Mercury |
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3% |
[ 12 ] |
Suzuki |
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26% |
[ 101 ] |
Yamaha |
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21% |
[ 81 ] |
Other |
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1% |
[ 4 ] |
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TyBoo
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 5314 City/Region: Warrenton
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 1996
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruise Ship
Vessel Name: TyBoo
Photos: TyBoo
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:04 pm Post subject: Outboard Choice, 2010 |
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A little over five years ago we ran this same poll. The thread and poll results can be seen here. It has been suggested that we run it again to see if people and/or the market have changed, so here it is.
Quote: | OK - you are getting new power for your C-Dory, for whatever reason. Which brand are you going to buy? Same drill as the last poll: 2 stroke, 4 stroke, single main or twins, it doesn't matter. Who is the manufacturer? |
_________________ TyBoo Mike
Sold: 1996 25' Cruise Ship
Sold: 1987 22' Cruiser |
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DaveS
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 3204 City/Region: Arlington
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Shift
Photos: Sea Shift
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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I voted for Johnson, since our C-Dory sports two of them and have been trouble free. (I did have Johnson previously and didn't enjoy it as much, but in its' defense the Johnson I had at the time was carburated).
However to legitimize the poll any of the Johnsons such as mine are actually Suzuki engines.
That being said, at the end of the poll, the Johnson and Suzuki scores should be added together, or perhaps .......just change the choices to read "Suzukison" _________________ Dave S.
"Sea Shift"
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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4656 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | just change the choices to read "Suzukison". |
Sort of like "Mercissanatsu". Or is it "Tohissanury"
I voted Suzuki, but I"m confident any modern FI 4 stroke made by a well known Japanese manufacturer would be comparable. _________________ "We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
Wife to her husband pointing @ us...from the bow of their 50-footer; Prideaux Haven 2013 |
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Wefings Dealer
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2086 City/Region: Panhandle
State or Province: FL
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Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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BRP killed the Johnzuki brand a number of years ago ,they dont want to sell any of those troublesome, polluting 4 strokes . So I would include Nissan/Tohatsu in this mix . They are great motors and a viable choice in my humble and biased opinion.
Marc _________________ Wefings Marine Website
Since 1909 |
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DaveS
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 3204 City/Region: Arlington
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Shift
Photos: Sea Shift
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:01 am Post subject: |
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DaveS wrote: | (I did have Johnson previously and didn't enjoy it as much, but in its' defense the Johnson I had at the time was carburated). |
Should have read..."did have Honda previously.....the Honda I had at the time was carburated".
durn timer on these comments... |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:27 am Post subject: |
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I voted for Yamaha. Always starts, always runs, always brings be back home. And I always have 2 incase I need a kicker.
I just went back and read the posts from the 5 YO thread. Some fun dialog there, and sure a different outcome on the poll.
Mile, thanks for bringing it back up.
Harvey
SleepyC
_________________ Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep. |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Some others vote for Yamaha too.
Harvey
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forrest
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 381 City/Region: Chehalis
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Long Story
Photos: Long Story
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:26 am Post subject: |
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Sometimes choosing a motor is more than what brand you like or heard is best. I originally wanted Yamaha but they didn't make a 15 HP kicker with remote control. Yamaha only had the tiller model in 15 HP and you had to do some conversion to get it remote. Also to start it manually you had to take off the motor cover and wrap a rope around the fly wheel. Suzuki also didn't have a 15 HP with remote control. I wanted remote control for the kicker at my rear helm.
There wasn't much difference to me what brand of main motor that I was looking at. Suzuki, Yamaha and Honda were the three finalists. Etec was interesting but I thought they weren't out long enough to form an opinion about reliability. I do have friends who have issues with Etec so I'm glad I didn't go that route. Honda had the following advantages for the kicker which made the final cut. First, Honda model for model had a larger alternator to keep the batteries charged while fishing and running the radar in the fog while trolling. A four thousand watt radar uses lots of battery up if the alternator can't keep up with it. Second the Honda had a 15 HP remote control model and Yamaha and Suzuki didn't. I know the whole 8HP is plenty for a kicker argument. I got that from the Y and S salesmen. I fish offshore a lot and would rather have the extra power when crossing the bar in the event that the main would fail. Also the 15 HP model had a bigger alternator which helped point one. Last and most important was Honda has a starter rope included in the motor cowling on their remote models. If the batteries run down, all I have to do is manually start the 15 HP kicker and charge a battery up enough to fire up the big guy. I know this works because I had one battery fail and the house load ran down the other battery. The backup plan worked perfectly. The kicker started with the pull rope and charged up the battery enough to fire up the 200HP and get back home. |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
Photos: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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hardee wrote: | Some others vote for Yamaha too.
Harvey
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Harvey-
That boat looks the same as the last time you showed it to us a few weeks ago!
Maybe you ought to check out the Boat Scum Removal thread (?)
Joe. _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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Doryman
Joined: 03 Oct 2006 Posts: 3807 City/Region: Anacortes
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Lori Ann
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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hardee wrote: | I voted for Yamaha. Always starts, always runs, always brings be back home. And I always have 2 incase I need a kicker. |
I've got Yamaha and I should be ashamed for voting against them (for Suzuki) because the Yamahas have been very reliable for me, plus they are the standard (parts, service etc.) in the remoter areas of BC and Mexico (next time you are up there, pay attention to what the locals run!) All that said, the gearing and power/weight ratios of the Suzukis is compelling.
Warren _________________ Doryman
M/V Lori Ann
TomCat 255, Hull #55, 150 Yamahas
Anacortes, WA
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Larry H
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2041 City/Region: Tulalip,
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1991
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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The latest word from BRP on Johnson Outboard Motors from their website: http://www.johnson.com/en-US/Index.htm
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Johnson is a part of BRP's heritage and many Johnson engines are still on the water. BRP will continue to manufacture Johnson parts and offer service for Johnson parts for existing engines. Distributors and dealers in all markets will continue to have access to spare parts to support continued enjoyment of Johnson powered boats. We are contemplating the various options that exist to perpetuate the Johnson brand and will share further information as it is readily available. |
_________________ Larry H
A C-Brat since Nov 1, 2003
Ranger Tug 27 ex 'Jacari Maru' 2017 - 2022
Puget Trawler 37 ex 'Jacari Maru' 2006-2017
1991 22' Cruiser, 'Nancy H'--1991-2006 |
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tpbrady
Joined: 08 Feb 2005 Posts: 891 City/Region: Anchorage
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Bidarka II
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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I have had up to five Hondas at one time and one Yamaha and I voted for Yamaha. The primary reasons were:
a. Open platform, you can get engine data and view it on multiple devices. No need for proprietary gauges.
b. Parts available both locally and on line.
c. Good source of technical assistance both on line and locally.
d. Excellent corrosion resistance.
e. Diagnostic software and engine manuals readily available.
Hondas I have had: BF20, BF25, BF90D, and two BF150s. Hondas I still have: 20, 25, and two 150's. Yamaha I have: F150. _________________ Tom
22 Cruiser Bidarka 2004-2009
25 Cruiser Bidarka II 2010-2013
38 Trawler Mia Terra 2012-2015
42 Nordic Tug 2015-
28 KingFisher 2009-2014
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Matt Gurnsey Dealer
Joined: 11 Nov 2008 Posts: 1532 City/Region: Port Orchard
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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BTW-
Evinrude and Suzuki have NMEA 2000 data available, so again, no proprietory gauges. Actually, Yamaha isn't using NMEA 2000, but there is a conversion unit available. Command Link II may be NMEA 2000. _________________ Matt Gurnsey
Kitsap Marina
www.kitsapmarina.com
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Sea Wolf Said:
Quote: | "Harvey-
That boat looks the same as the last time you showed it to us a few weeks ago!
Maybe you ought to check out the Boat Scum Removal thread (?)" |
Joe, It's not my boat It is in my "Other C-Dorys We've Seen" album. I have talked to the owner and he says if he cleans it all up, he doesn't catch as many crab.
Sorry if I bored you with the photo
I need to learn photo shop and spiff it up that way.
Harvey
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Harvey-
No problem, just being my occasional wise-ass self!
Joe. |
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