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Chuckpacific
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 397 City/Region: SW PDX
State or Province: OR
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:29 pm Post subject: Sta-Bil ethanol treatment |
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I saw a 32 oz container of this product at West Marine ($19.99). The printed instructions say use one oz. per 10 gallons of gas but the guy at West Marine said to use 2 oz. for 5 gallons. Comments?? _________________ There’s only one success – to be able to spend your life in your own way.
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TyBoo
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 5328 City/Region: Warrenton
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 1996
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruise Ship
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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My jug says 1 oz/10 gals. for normal use and 1 oz/5 gals. for system cleanup or storage. I think using 2 oz/5 gals. would only benefit the guy selling the stuff. I use it in my cans for lawnmowers and other small engines at the 2 oz/5 gals. mix. I can let you know next spring how that works for me.
I have used ethanol free gas from the Port of Astoria fuel dock all season. The coat is about $35 per fish. How does that compare with Safeway's fish price?
Other than that how you doing? I didn't get up to Cathlamet this year. Did you have your boat there for the summer again? _________________ TyBoo Mike
Sold: 1996 25' Cruise Ship
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Chuckpacific
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 397 City/Region: SW PDX
State or Province: OR
Vessel Name: Big Sky
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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Mike...I started using ethanol free gas (from fuel docks on the water - no ethanol-free gas close to me in Portland) this year but sometimes if the docks are closed I have to improvise. LOL...remember I still have boat operating costs even when I catch my fish at Safeway!!
I just brought the boat back to Tomahawk Island (from Cathlamet) yesterday. The last two years have been excellent for weather there...we've had a few clear mornings even!! It was 92 and sunny yesterday...on the way back up the river I saw more people on the beaches than I ever have. Collins Beach (the nudist beach on Sauvie Island) must've had 400 people!! |
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Matt Gurnsey Dealer
Joined: 11 Nov 2008 Posts: 1532 City/Region: Port Orchard
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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We have been recomending Sta Bil Marine Formula for some time now, and it seems to be doing a good job of helping with ethonal related issues. We don't recomnend anything stronger than the manufacturer's 1 oz. in 5 gallong recomendation. _________________ Matt Gurnsey
Kitsap Marina
www.kitsapmarina.com
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damason
Joined: 02 Dec 2007 Posts: 184 City/Region: Valparaiso, Florida
State or Province: FL
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:52 pm Post subject: StaBil Marine Formula |
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I have been using StaBil Marine Formula Ethanol Treatment (the dark stuff) for the past 3 years in my 150 hp Suzuki engine. Each year in July I replace the fuel/water separater with a new one and when I dump the contents of the old one out into a bucket there is no water in the filter. I usually keep 40 to 50 gallons year around in the 100 gallon tank and only fill up when I am going on a cruise.
The directions say 1 oz to 10 gallons of fuel. I put in 3 oz and 20 gallons of gas. StaBil says that more won't hurt. I also use StaBil in the gas in my lawn equipment.
So far so good and I am happy.  _________________ Marlene and Dave Mason
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localboy
Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 4673 City/Region: Lake Stevens via Honolulu
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
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Vessel Name: 'Au Kai (Ocean Traveler)
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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Since buying our boat from Matt I've religiously used the blue Sta-bil according to the ratios on the bottle. I double the ratio as recommended for winter storage. SO FAR, no fuel related issues and we do not boat during winter, so the boat sits on the trailer in the driveway. Last yr I stored it w/ about 3/4 tank and it started on the first try when "spring" arrived here.
I also use it in my mower, power washer, gen set etc for winter storage. I'll usually fill the tanks after the last use, run the engines for about 10 minutes to make sure the new fuel mix gets through the carbs and then shut the fuel and let the engines run until they die. Same thing; so far, no issues.
EDIT: It's a lot cheaper @ Fred Meyer too. FYI. _________________ "We can go over there...behind the 'little one'....."
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C-Nile
Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 638 City/Region: Connecticut
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Vessel Name: Betty Ann
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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I would like to echo what 'AU KAI' stated. I, too, use the storage level of stabil in my lawn mower, snow thrower, portable generator and until it was sold -- Yamaha 4 HP kicker. My garage gets pretty hot in the summer, but I never drain the carburetors -- just start the motors and run them for a few minutes every 45 days or so. Not once in all these years have I had a problem. _________________ Marinaut 215 - "Betty Ann" Sept-2011
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21469 City/Region: Pensacola
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C-Dory Year: 2007
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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I had used the maintenance level of the red Stabil (I had used only ethanol free gas), but I also added the maintenance amount of Startron. Does it make a difference? Not sure, but there is some evidence it helps. Even with ethanol free gas, you need to use a fuel stabilizer. The blue is for ethanol containing fuel. _________________ Bob Austin
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stevej
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 314 City/Region: Gaston
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 1995
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruise Ship
Vessel Name: Shearwater
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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I avoid the stabilizer mess and purchase my gas at the fuel dock in Newport. No ethanol and stabilizer added with a advertised shelf life of 12 months stated on the pump.
However the stuff is $4.69 a gallon so my per fish price is way more than Tyboo's or Chuck's. We caught 2 coho for $199.00 a couple weeks ago.
stevej _________________ 1995 25' Cruise Ship #3 |
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billtwymank
Joined: 15 Oct 2010 Posts: 158 City/Region: Pinehurst - New Bern, NC
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:00 pm Post subject: Stabil vs Valtech |
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The previous owner of Lady KC used Stabil
but we have since filled up at Valtech dealers
and have thus added Valtech after each fuel fill ups.
Question.....should I still add Stabil product
along with the Valtech product.
Any input would be appreciated.......
*** _________________ Bill & Karan
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Captains Cat
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 7313 City/Region: Cod Creek>Potomac River>Chesapeake Bay
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: Stabil vs Valtech |
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billtwymank wrote: | ***
The previous owner of Lady KC used Stabil
but we have since filled up at Valtech dealers
and have thus added Valtech after each fuel fill ups.
Question.....should I still add Stabil product
along with the Valtech product.
Any input would be appreciated.......
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Bill, I don't think it can hurt. I use both Stabil and Startron and haven't had a problem since I started using it. B4 that, I had probs with water separation with Ethanol gas in the 45HP Hondas on the CD 22. None on the TC.
Charlie _________________ CHARLIE and PENNY CBRAT #100
Captain's Cat II 2005 22 Cruiser
Thataway (2006 TC255 - Sold Aug 2013)
Captain's Cat (2006 TC255 - Sold January 2012)
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Kent Richmond
Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Posts: 65 City/Region: Bayfield,
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:28 pm Post subject: Sta-bil ethanol treatment |
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Does anyone use Sea Foam for stabilizing their gas?
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TyBoo
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 5328 City/Region: Warrenton
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Stevej - Filled up again today and caught one more fish. Fuel cost is now $39.71/fish. But those are only the legal ones. Not shakers or natives or out of season fish. If I counted them all I think ODFW would owe me money.
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C-Nile
Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 638 City/Region: Connecticut
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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A snow-thrower -- in the Connecticut wilderness, that's another word for snowblower, and we sure had a lot of snow this year to throw, blow, eject or otherwise expel.
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TyBoo
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 5328 City/Region: Warrenton
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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What's a snowblower?
...I'm just kidding you. I have seen the things on TV. |
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