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Tim & Dave Kinghorn



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:26 pm    Post subject: How Do You Install a Bronze Screw-in Bilge Drain Reply with quote

How did those of you with a bronze screw-in bilge drain plug go about the installation?

I assume you drilled the old hole over-sized (how big?), and then undercut to fill the whole thing with epoxy. Drill for a new drain tube and screw on the bronze fitting with the screw-in plug.

Did you epoxy the tube into the new hole?

I'd appreciate any input from those who have done this. Thank you!

Tim and Dave Kinghorn

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tim & Dave, I just installed two on the TomCat. After the holes were drilled in the transom, which has a foam core, I epoxied the inside of the hole, twice. No need to undercut since it is a fresh hole. I sealed the flange to the transom with 4200 and secured with bronze screws. See our album for the procedure.

Then, devise a fool-proof method of remembering the plugs at every launch!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The method I use upon pulling the boat is to remove the plug to drain and place it on the dash right above the steering wheel while I do tinker stuff, tie downs, etc. then put the plug back in before driving away...
At home, if the boat is outside in a rain I pull the plug at supper time and put it on the table next to my plate... After supper I go put it back in... I do not let the boat sit with the plug out...
I have adopted this method because as my tooth has gotten longer my CRS has gotten shorter...

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a previous boat that had this type bilge plug, I mounted an additonal base plate on the inside of the transom, and kept the screw-in plug there.

I'm not sure why, but I actually prefer this type of plug versus the other type. Is there a practical reason for one over the other?

...while we're on the topic of bilge plugs - I've always put bilge plugs in from the outside, but I know some folks put them in from the inside. Is there a reason(?) or is it just personal preference? I know that on Whalers (and some other open cockpit self-bailers) folks like to put the plug in from inside to facilitate bailing while running, but I always just used the bilge pump if it was necessary.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Casey wrote:


...while we're on the topic of bilge plugs - I've always put bilge plugs in from the outside, but I know some folks put them in from the inside. Is there a reason(?) or is it just personal preference?

Best,
Casey


Oh-Oh! I think I sense another round of the infamous (and interminable)

Da plug--inny or outy?Debate!

Joe. Rolling Eyes Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Joe for posting the reference to the "Great Inny Outy Debate". I tried to locate it as well, but was not successful. We should annoint you our "C-Brat Resource/Research Librarian", because you do such a superb job in those tasks. Thumbs Up Hard to believe that the thread is from 4 years ago....my how time flies.

What I didn't remember was that the "thread" was 5 pages long. (I just skimmed over part of the thread and located my "Inny Outy Skunk Joke on page one of the thread Rolling Eyes .

Thanks,
Joe

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can add a high water alarm for safety
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting photo showing water absorption in foam
http://www.yachtsurvey.com/moisture_meters.htm
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 7:42 pm    Post subject: Moisture Meters Reply with quote

Hi Brent,

Thanks for the reference. It certainly ensures that you want to properly prepare any opening into a cored material whether the hull, topsides or other structures.

Tim and Dave Kinghorn
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My CD came equipped with a bronze 1 1/4" threaded drain plug and fitting. The plug has a 1/2" square indent for a ratchet wrench. This requires the wrench be readily available.
Does anyone know of a bronze 1 1/4" plug with a built in "T" handle ?????

I painted the plug face with white, then fluorescent red paint so it shows up when screwed in. I also mounted a plastic 1 1/4" cap on my motor extension and screw the plug into it for storage when not in the hull. I have not forgot it in two summers. I can see it from inside the boat when stored in the cap so it is easy to check just before launch. Works for me.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is this it?
http://www.fisheriessupply.com/productgroupdetail.aspx?cid=8533&did=8526
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

B2,
That is exactly what I want but in a 1 1/4" diameter plug.
Thanks,
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you checked a plumbing supply company then braze on a handle?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure about the size? A hardware store will have a nut and bolt with thread pitch gauge
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Positive on t he size. It is a big hole.
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