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Larry H



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe,

Here is a link to a free-for-donation program that does what MS Office does. It shows PPS files full screen.

http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/index.php

I am currently using it on my Mac running OS-X 10.6.3, (Snow Leopard)

This program works and I have had no problems with it.

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BrentB



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Google docs and Evernote except for a database then use Access. I do miss dBase

You can use Google docs offline using Googel Gears
Evernote is similar with just a quick sync

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Pat Anderson



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Joe, NeoOffice is a Mac-specific version of OpenOffice, and you can use a standard version of OpenOffice as well. That is what I use, and it is file compatible with MS Office through 2003. On MS Office 2007, you need the Open XML converter from Microsoft, which is also free.
Larry H wrote:
Joe,

Here is a link to a free-for-donation program that does what MS Office does. It shows PPS files full screen.

http://www.neooffice.org/neojava/en/index.php

I am currently using it on my Mac running OS-X 10.6.3, (Snow Leopard)

This program works and I have had no problems with it.

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patrick and linda



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so, i have a dell windows vista intel core 2 duo processor. use it at home, or while traveling. is there a word processing program that i can download simular neooffice or would the neooffice work on my system. i've read each response and have learned much from them.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes download open office.
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BrentB



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I agree Open Office http://www.openoffice.org/
or Google Docs and use Google gears for offline use
http://www.google.com/intl/en/options/
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larry H wrote:
Brent,

I have an Apple Mac Mini, running OS-X 10.6.3 and also a Compaq running Windows 7. Both computers are new since Nov 09.

The Mac only gets one or two (if that many) updates or security patches from Apple per month. The Windows 7 machine gets the usual 5 to 10 patches weekly.

I am just a computer user, but my understanding is that Mac computers use unix as the operating core of the computer, and that core can not be changed without the operator allowing the change by entering the administrator password.

If I understand Windows correctly, any .exe file can change the core of the machine, and do not require the admin password to do so.

I do not have any anti-virus software on the Mac. I have not had any problems.

I have AGV free anti-virus on the W 7 machine, and so far I have not had any problems, but the W 7 is only used for navigation and only goes online to access Rose Point for Coastal Explorer updates and to get the W 7 patches.

The Mac can pass viruses thru the machine by getting an infected email, and then forwarding that email to others, but the virus does no harm to the Mac.

Anyone wanting to learn more about Mac computers can check this link to a user forum.

http://www.mac-forums.com/forums/switcher-hangout/

Conclusion, I love my Mac! When Coastal Explorer releases a Mac version, I will get rid of all my PC pain-in-the-A machines.



Larry
Have you looked at using NavimaQ or MacENC?
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Larry H



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brent,

I installed the trial version of MacENC and tried it out some.

I also installed Coastal Explorer trial version on a PC and tried that. I prefer the CE over MacENC for waypoint management and for chart zooming and redraw time. The Mac ENC is better at chart rendition (its a Mac and graphics is its strong suit).

The other issue is that I would have to buy a Mac notebook + the MacENC program. That is a lot of $$$. Perhaps in the future I will get a Mac notebook, but for now I have a Compac notebook with W 7 which will not be connected to the internet, except to update charts and CE. Coastal Explorer is also well supported by the good folks at Rose Point.
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BrentB



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks Larry

I am PC neutral and that was my thinking plus the market is flooded with inexpensive netbooks. Is 10" screen acceptable?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a 16inch notebook and still wish the screen was larger. Netbook screens are kinda small, however they would fit nicely on a 22 or even a 16. I have heard that the netbooks are a little short on processor power. I do think that a netbook would be good for email and light web browsing to keep the notebook PC with the nav program away from the internet.

The various nav programs are available as free trial versions. It would not cost much to try out your pick on a netbook. Netbook suitability also varies by how many charts you want to install.

PC's getting a virus and/or crashing seems to me to be the most dangerous part of using a computer to navigate. (Other than their susceptibility to water or physical damage.)

If there is room and power for a monitor, a Mac Mini running MacENC installed in a protected location, powered by a 12volt power supply or inverter could make a good nav system.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks
I have Garmin Homeport running on a 10" netbook. I just repaired a 15" laptop that someone gave me b/c the partition table got scrambled and plan tom install it if I dont give it away
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patrick and linda



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2010 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi brent,
just downloaded openoffice.org, took an hour or so, haven't opened it to look around, will do that tomorrow as it's been a long day and i'm just a little tired. i appreciate the referral.
thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good luck I used it for several years before switching to gDocs

I give Apple all of the credit in world for giving us the Personal in PC and providing a pleasant PC experience along with their computers, i- models and phones. what a game changer when Macs replaced the Apple II series
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks to Larry, Pat, Brent, and all for the hints! I've been away for a day, and will give them a try as I am able to catch up!

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