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turtleblues
Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Posts: 68 City/Region: Friday Harbor
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: DVant
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 7:41 pm Post subject: Need advice on best kicker for new 16 Angler |
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I am about to pick up a 2007 Angler 16 and was wondering what is the best size kicker for it. It has a 60 hp Yamaha on it and I was thinking an 8 hp would be a nice match. I want something that can get me back into harbor should the main engine go down. I am a sailor and used to having the wind as a back up. I don't trust power boats anywhere except on lakes  |
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mshepherd
Joined: 24 Jul 2009 Posts: 42 City/Region: Bellingham, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1994
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Little Fella
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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Try and get a twin cylinder, I hate the vibration from the single cylinder motors. I think one manufacturer makes an 8hp twin, but most you have to go to 9.9 to get a twin. |
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Robbi
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 1193 City/Region: Chambers Bay
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2023
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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The Tohatsu 8 HP is a twin. I think a 6 or 8 is a good size for the 16.
Robbi _________________ 2023 C-Dory 23 Venture Sport
2003 C-Dory 19
sold 2019
2004 C-Dory 16 Cruiser
Sold 8/2015
2004 C-Dory 19 "C-Run"
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Wandering Sagebrush
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2783 City/Region: Northeast Oregon
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Constant Craving
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: Kicker |
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Even though I have a Honda 8, my favorite kicker is the Yamaha 8. I believe it is the smoothest trolling motor I have ever used. Works well at low speeds, the throttle is very adjustable, and nothing but praise from me... _________________ "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." - Abraham Lincoln |
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bjidzik
Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 112 City/Region: Juneau
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2009
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Betty Joe
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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We had a Suzuki 50hp main & 6hp kicker on our 16' Cruiser.
I liked having an internal fuel tank on the Suzuki kicker for times I didn't want to carry that much fuel. |
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Spike
Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 572 City/Region: Kent
State or Province: WA
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C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Bootleg Hooch
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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My buddy has a 8hp Tohatsu on his 16 angler. Really happy with it. |
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16Pounder
Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 50 City/Region: Gallipolis
State or Province: OH
C-Dory Year: 1990
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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I will second the Suzuki 6hp four stroke. I used a Honda 8hp with a Johnson 48 two stroke main for several years. When the Johnson died, I put a Honda 50 on and used it a year with the 8hp kicker. I loved the Honda 8 but the weight on the back of the boat with the fuel tanks, battery, etc. worried me when myself and fishing partner were standing in the back fishing. Also, I didn't really need 8 hp for a kicker because it would only push me about 5 mph max at about 1/3 throttle and giving it more throttle only made more noise with no increase in speed. I shopped around and looked at the Tohatsu, Yamaha, Mercury, Suzuki, and Honda 5/6 hp motors and I felt the Suzuki 6 was the best option for me. I was concerned about the vibration since it is only a single cylinder, but I used it last year trolling for salmon and it was not bad at all, so I am happy with my decision to buy it. I believe the difference in weight was about 40 pounds between the Suzuki and Honda.
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digger
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 496 City/Region: Spokane
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C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:36 pm Post subject: I second the 2 cylinder idea |
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Most of the motors will be 2 cylinder for 8 hp and above. If you use the kicker for trolling (low speed), the single cylinder does vibrate, usually because the powerhead does not have the rubber dampeners between it and the transom mount. That causes the vibration of the motor to transfer to the boat in a harsh manner. For higher speeds, as a get you home motor, the vibration wouldn't be as noticeable. I'd stay with 2 cylinders for the smooth operation, although they are heavier. I also prefer the honda, yamaha, or suzuki (but not the single cylinder models). They are all pretty dependable, although the singles shake at low speeds. |
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Stephen Williams
Joined: 23 Sep 2007 Posts: 35 City/Region: New Smyrna Beach
State or Province: FL
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C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
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Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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I have a 4 HP Mercury on my 16' Cruiser. The advantage is that it only weighs 52 lbs. The 16's are VERY sensitive to stern weight, a fact you will be considering greatly in the future, I promise you!! I added a kicker for security to get back to the dock if my main failed. The 4 will push the 16 at nearly 5 knots which is respectable. Yes, it may be a little noisy, but when the main fails, you "could care less"!! However, if you will be doing more trolling instead of planing, a twin may be more appropriate. Steve |
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turtleblues
Joined: 17 Nov 2009 Posts: 68 City/Region: Friday Harbor
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: DVant
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you everyone for the good advice. I am not used to the weight issue and really had not considered it much. I do have a 3.5 hp sitting in the basement. Maybe I should try that before venturing into the store and dropping a couple of grand.
I did talk with someone this morning who used to own a 16. He said thatg at 200 lb. he found it very tender when he was alone. I am 220 lb. and 6'2" so maybe a little less weight on the transom is important.
Again thanks for the advice. |
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Stardust
Joined: 18 Jul 2009 Posts: 25 City/Region: Friday Harbor
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C-Dory Year: 2003
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to see how weight makes a diff, contact me and we can go down to my docked 16 cruiser.
Todd
378-2117 ext390 |
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Forty Two
Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 114 City/Region: Prince William Sound
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:55 am Post subject: |
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I have a Yamaha 6 for a kicker on my 17 foot Arima, and highly recommend it. Twin cylinder, and very quiet - pushes the boat about 5 knots, and starts first time, every time. Weighs 82 pounds, though - maybe to heavy for your CD16. _________________ John & Susan |
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dotnmarty
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 4209 City/Region: Sammamish
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C-Dory Year: 1993
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:29 am Post subject: |
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turtleblues wrote: | I do have a 3.5 hp sitting in the basement. Maybe I should try that before venturing into the store and dropping a couple of grand.
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I would try it. If you get 4 mph, use it. _________________ MartyP
"...we're all in the same boat..." |
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