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Perry60sRocker



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:51 pm    Post subject: The right motor for a c-dory 22 Reply with quote

Has any one used a 50 or 60 hp motor on a c-Dory 22, and how did it work out for you. What shaft should be used a long are short. Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 50 or 60 on a 22 cruiser is "underpowered" and the one most used is the 90 hp.....or twin 40's at the least. Long shaft is what is required.

Look in the photo albums for different arrangements.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I noticed a 22 for sale on her this past year that had a 50hp on it in Florida. I have twin 40's and am happy with the performance. I just could not see the boat with that limited HP. One has to look at the use for the boat. On the other hand even if it worked well for 1 person, it would be difficult to sell.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When we were searching for a boat, there was a fellow in Ohio, I believe, that had a 22 with a single 50 on her. He used it to putt around the river system. Unless you never want to get on plane, get a 90.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the 50 you would be marginally on a plane, and be working the engine all of the time at its max. With a very light boat, you might get by, but the resale would be terriable, and you would not be happy with the boat.

Now if you wanted pure displacement speeds--a 15 to 20 hp would do the job. But you are looking at 5 to 6 knot speeds.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will see a lot of boats around 22ft with way more hp hanging off the stern; it’s amazing how well a 22ft CD performs with just 90hp. I’ve got a buddy with a 22ft Seasport who gets at best 2.5mpg with his inboard, the draw back to having a deep V. Have another friend with twin 115hp Yams on his 22ft Hewescraft Cuddy. Neither of these guys can hall any more gear than me, but they do have more fuel capacity. Laughing

You’ll not find a more economical 22ft class pocket cruiser than a CD; there’s no point in under powering this boat unless you want to run at max displacement speed all day… If that’s the case a 15hp high thrust will get the job done.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a 2003 22 Cruiser with a 50 hp Honda. It can run 15 to 16 k and I cruise it around 12 k. It will stay on plane at 10 k which is a good speed for a chopy bay. I purchased the boat for much less because of the 50. Both the boat and the motor had very low hours. I purchased it from Cutter Marine who carfully explained the limitations of the 50 vs the 90. It is also very economical to run. Thus for two persons and a 65 pound dog the boat works well.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As has been said, it all depends what you want to do with the boat.

A very small engine will move it even when heavily loaded, it just won't move it very fast. If all you wish to do is putter around on small water a 50-60 hp engine will allow you to do that in style.

HOWEVER:

To realize all that a C-dory 22 offers a boat owner, a single 75 should be considered minimum horsepower. And that would be for light loads.

Our boat has twin 40's and we love them. Without doing a poll, I think a single 90 is the most popular power for the 22.

Idea It would be fun to do an up to date poll on engine HP. How bout it Bill or Mike?

There hasn't been an interesting poll around here for a while. Maybe those of you influential with the good site admin folks could put on the pressure Wink .

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm content with my Suzuki 90 but my boat is heavily loaded and with full tanks and four aboard it's a little sluggish. If I were to repower I'd got either with a 115 or maybe the new lighter Suzuki 90.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes our loads can often range a bunch... When I used my CD 16 I always had two props....one for those yep we got a lot of folks and gear on board trips, and another for less loaded trips. Lost a bit of top end...but, took care of the slugish when heavy loads were there. Never realy cared about going fast...just going fun, dry, and smooth.

So many motors, so many props, so many options....

No perfect answer....just more options.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: The right motor for a c-dory 22 Reply with quote

Perry60sRocker wrote:
Has any one used a 50 or 60 hp motor on a c-Dory 22, and how did it work out for you. What shaft should be used a long are short. Thanks


You really do want at least 75 hp.
Take a look around and you won't see any (many?) other 22' planing hulls that can operate efficently with as few hp.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Byrdman, the loads and altitude can range a bunch. Also agree with not caring about going fast...just fun, dry and smooth with I might add enough power to stay safe in the control of boat in different water conditions along with varying loads and altitudes.

As its been shown a very few will be satisfied with the very low hp (50 to 60). The other 99+% will want and need 75hp at the very minimum and prefer at least twin 40's to 115 hp. We have the twin Honda 40's and with how we use the Hunkydory more hp would be even better less would make it not workable for us as we already have been in a situation where even with prop set up for max load could not get on plane.

When not on an extended cruise the majority of our boating is done on Lake Yellowstone at near 8000 feet where we lose almost 20 of the 80hp and bring it near the 60hp asked about by Perry. The difference being the twin 40's I would think put out much more torque than a single high rpm 60hp. At that altitude with our propulse adjustable prop set at the very lowest pitch setting can do a max speed of 19-20 mph at 5100 rpm with what for us is a medium light load. What may be interesting to some is with our very heavy loads on the ocean we use the same prop setting as on Yellowstone Lake with the average max speed and rpm only raising a small amount. When on plane most of our cruising is done at 12 to 16mph(you more nautical thinkers can do your own conversion its to late for me to think of boat speed in anything other than mph) and never run over 80% of max rpm over extended period.

So.........as others have stated the 50 or 60 hp could work out well or even only 15hp, but for the other 99% it starts at twin 40's and many prefer to max out with 115hp and as Milehog pointed out that's still very low hp for 22 foot planing hulls.

Jay

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:01 am    Post subject: Right motor for C-Dory 22' Reply with quote

I have an E-tec 115 hp on my 22'ft angler and love it. Runs 28-30 mph at 4600 rpm's. It weighs 8 pounds more than a Honda 90 and lots more "soup". Chica
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Right motor for C-Dory 22' Reply with quote

Chica wrote:
I have an E-tec 115 hp on my 22'ft angler and love it. Runs 28-30 mph at 4600 rpm's. It weighs 8 pounds more than a Honda 90 and lots more "soup". Chica


Impressive performance, been looking at upgrading to a 115 E-tec but the dealer here says they wouldn’t mount on an 07 C-dory because it’s only rated for 90hp.
I’d love to be able to cruise at 28 to 30 mph with power to spare, only because we routinely cover 150+ miles in a three day weekend; more speed = more time at destination. Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have sold both of the 2009 C-Dory boats that we had remaining in inventory, and both owners chose 115 Suzuki power for the boats.

Top speed with a light load was in the mid / upper mid 30 knot range. Plenty fast for the boat. I think the new Suzuki 90 (lighter weight) or E-Tec 90 (again, lighter) are plenty of motor for the boat.

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