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Perry60sRocker
Joined: 17 Oct 2009 Posts: 11 City/Region: Moxee
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:51 pm Post subject: The right motor for a c-dory 22 |
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Has any one used a 50 or 60 hp motor on a c-Dory 22, and how did it work out for you. What shaft should be used a long are short. Thanks |
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Papillon
Joined: 31 Mar 2005 Posts: 949 City/Region: DeBary, Fl. *On the St. John's River*
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: Papillon
Photos: Papillon
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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The 50 or 60 on a 22 cruiser is "underpowered" and the one most used is the 90 hp.....or twin 40's at the least. Long shaft is what is required.
Look in the photo albums for different arrangements. _________________ Mike Taylor
330-936-1030
1993 Angler-02' 115 Suzuki 4 Stroke |
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Don and Brenda
Joined: 22 Feb 2009 Posts: 588 City/Region: Camano Island, Wa
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2011
C-Dory Model: R-27 Tug
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:02 pm Post subject: |
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I noticed a 22 for sale on her this past year that had a 50hp on it in Florida. I have twin 40's and am happy with the performance. I just could not see the boat with that limited HP. One has to look at the use for the boat. On the other hand even if it worked well for 1 person, it would be difficult to sell. |
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416rigby
Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 1208 City/Region: Port Angeles
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2001
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Foggy Dew
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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When we were searching for a boat, there was a fellow in Ohio, I believe, that had a 22 with a single 50 on her. He used it to putt around the river system. Unless you never want to get on plane, get a 90. _________________ "Life's too short to hunt with an ugly gun"
At last...home for good in the Great Northwest!
2001 22 Cruiser "Foggy Dew" 2006-2013 |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21378 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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With the 50 you would be marginally on a plane, and be working the engine all of the time at its max. With a very light boat, you might get by, but the resale would be terriable, and you would not be happy with the boat.
Now if you wanted pure displacement speeds--a 15 to 20 hp would do the job. But you are looking at 5 to 6 knot speeds. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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breausaw
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 1222 City/Region: Anchorage
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Triple J
Photos: Triple J
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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You will see a lot of boats around 22ft with way more hp hanging off the stern; it’s amazing how well a 22ft CD performs with just 90hp. I’ve got a buddy with a 22ft Seasport who gets at best 2.5mpg with his inboard, the draw back to having a deep V. Have another friend with twin 115hp Yams on his 22ft Hewescraft Cuddy. Neither of these guys can hall any more gear than me, but they do have more fuel capacity.
You’ll not find a more economical 22ft class pocket cruiser than a CD; there’s no point in under powering this boat unless you want to run at max displacement speed all day… If that’s the case a 15hp high thrust will get the job done. _________________ Jay
2007 22ft C-Dory Triple J 2007-2012
2007 25ft C-Dory Triple J 2012-2018
Boatless for now but looking |
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hauptmaus
Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 16 City/Region: Shrewsbury Township
State or Province: PA
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Finalist
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Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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I have a 2003 22 Cruiser with a 50 hp Honda. It can run 15 to 16 k and I cruise it around 12 k. It will stay on plane at 10 k which is a good speed for a chopy bay. I purchased the boat for much less because of the 50. Both the boat and the motor had very low hours. I purchased it from Cutter Marine who carfully explained the limitations of the 50 vs the 90. It is also very economical to run. Thus for two persons and a 65 pound dog the boat works well. |
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Fishhawk
Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 245 City/Region: Bon Secour
State or Province: AL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Osprey
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:38 am Post subject: |
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As has been said, it all depends what you want to do with the boat.
A very small engine will move it even when heavily loaded, it just won't move it very fast. If all you wish to do is putter around on small water a 50-60 hp engine will allow you to do that in style.
HOWEVER:
To realize all that a C-dory 22 offers a boat owner, a single 75 should be considered minimum horsepower. And that would be for light loads.
Our boat has twin 40's and we love them. Without doing a poll, I think a single 90 is the most popular power for the 22.
It would be fun to do an up to date poll on engine HP. How bout it Bill or Mike?
There hasn't been an interesting poll around here for a while. Maybe those of you influential with the good site admin folks could put on the pressure .
Dan _________________ "We intend to alleviate global warming's effects of raising ocean water levels by removing enough fish to counteract it all! "
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marvin4239
Joined: 06 Feb 2007 Posts: 1165 City/Region: Jacksonville Florida/Wilmington NC
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-FLE II
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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I'm content with my Suzuki 90 but my boat is heavily loaded and with full tanks and four aboard it's a little sluggish. If I were to repower I'd got either with a 115 or maybe the new lighter Suzuki 90. _________________ marvin |
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Byrdman
Joined: 06 Nov 2003 Posts: 3329 City/Region: Cumberland River, Clarksville,
State or Province: WA
Vessel Name: " ? " After Rename Ceremony
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:09 am Post subject: |
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Yes our loads can often range a bunch... When I used my CD 16 I always had two props....one for those yep we got a lot of folks and gear on board trips, and another for less loaded trips. Lost a bit of top end...but, took care of the slugish when heavy loads were there. Never realy cared about going fast...just going fun, dry, and smooth.
So many motors, so many props, so many options....
No perfect answer....just more options.
Byrdman _________________ Patrick Byrd "Byrdman"
Cumberland River TN home waters Puget Sound Summers.
Miss B - CD22A, Aug 2018
C-Byrd, CD18A, Hull #14 sold again.. May 2020
C-Byrd, CD18A, Hu #14 - Bought her again - May16
Aloysius, Sold to Brother Mike Mar16
Aloysius, Hull # 440 RF-246
C-Byrd, CD18A, Hull #14 Sold May09
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Chester
Joined: 04 Sep 2006 Posts: 1176 City/Region: home
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sold to lovely couple
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:24 am Post subject: Re: The right motor for a c-dory 22 |
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Perry60sRocker wrote: | Has any one used a 50 or 60 hp motor on a c-Dory 22, and how did it work out for you. What shaft should be used a long are short. Thanks |
You really do want at least 75 hp.
Take a look around and you won't see any (many?) other 22' planing hulls that can operate efficently with as few hp. |
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Hunkydory
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2720 City/Region: Cokeville, Wyoming
State or Province: WY
C-Dory Year: 2000
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Hunkydory
Photos: Hunkydory-Jay-and-Jolee
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Yes Byrdman, the loads and altitude can range a bunch. Also agree with not caring about going fast...just fun, dry and smooth with I might add enough power to stay safe in the control of boat in different water conditions along with varying loads and altitudes.
As its been shown a very few will be satisfied with the very low hp (50 to 60). The other 99+% will want and need 75hp at the very minimum and prefer at least twin 40's to 115 hp. We have the twin Honda 40's and with how we use the Hunkydory more hp would be even better less would make it not workable for us as we already have been in a situation where even with prop set up for max load could not get on plane.
When not on an extended cruise the majority of our boating is done on Lake Yellowstone at near 8000 feet where we lose almost 20 of the 80hp and bring it near the 60hp asked about by Perry. The difference being the twin 40's I would think put out much more torque than a single high rpm 60hp. At that altitude with our propulse adjustable prop set at the very lowest pitch setting can do a max speed of 19-20 mph at 5100 rpm with what for us is a medium light load. What may be interesting to some is with our very heavy loads on the ocean we use the same prop setting as on Yellowstone Lake with the average max speed and rpm only raising a small amount. When on plane most of our cruising is done at 12 to 16mph(you more nautical thinkers can do your own conversion its to late for me to think of boat speed in anything other than mph) and never run over 80% of max rpm over extended period.
So.........as others have stated the 50 or 60 hp could work out well or even only 15hp, but for the other 99% it starts at twin 40's and many prefer to max out with 115hp and as Milehog pointed out that's still very low hp for 22 foot planing hulls.
Jay _________________ Jay and Jolee 2000 22 CD cruiser Hunkydory
I will not waste my days in trying to prolong them------Jack London
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Chica
Joined: 05 Nov 2003 Posts: 57 City/Region: Butte
State or Province: MT
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: Chica
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 11:01 am Post subject: Right motor for C-Dory 22' |
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I have an E-tec 115 hp on my 22'ft angler and love it. Runs 28-30 mph at 4600 rpm's. It weighs 8 pounds more than a Honda 90 and lots more "soup". Chica |
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breausaw
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 1222 City/Region: Anchorage
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Triple J
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:04 pm Post subject: Re: Right motor for C-Dory 22' |
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Chica wrote: | I have an E-tec 115 hp on my 22'ft angler and love it. Runs 28-30 mph at 4600 rpm's. It weighs 8 pounds more than a Honda 90 and lots more "soup". Chica |
Impressive performance, been looking at upgrading to a 115 E-tec but the dealer here says they wouldn’t mount on an 07 C-dory because it’s only rated for 90hp.
I’d love to be able to cruise at 28 to 30 mph with power to spare, only because we routinely cover 150+ miles in a three day weekend; more speed = more time at destination.
Jay |
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Matt Gurnsey Dealer
Joined: 11 Nov 2008 Posts: 1532 City/Region: Port Orchard
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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We have sold both of the 2009 C-Dory boats that we had remaining in inventory, and both owners chose 115 Suzuki power for the boats.
Top speed with a light load was in the mid / upper mid 30 knot range. Plenty fast for the boat. I think the new Suzuki 90 (lighter weight) or E-Tec 90 (again, lighter) are plenty of motor for the boat. _________________ Matt Gurnsey
Kitsap Marina
www.kitsapmarina.com
360-895-2193
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