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jfflindhout
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:33 pm    Post subject: A simple opinion Reply with quote

Okay, I haven't posted anything on the site for awhile and I thought it was time. We are well into our new adventure with C-Dory and things are going quite well. We have put out several C-Dory boats, one Orca is almost done and a Tom Cat will follow shortly. We are not blasting through the learning curve, but cautiously and methodically moving through it...so far so good. However, I'm going to go out on a limb and pose a question to the group to get some feedback. It's not a big issue, but I noticed that boats from the old regime have the "C-Dory" logo in the seats. We have not incorporated this feature and although it is obviously just a cosmetic question I wanted to know what people thought. We try to look at every feature no matter how small and determine how significant it is. The little items do add up time and we want to keep our boats affordable. Let me know...big deal? little deal? who cares? I realize that it's risky asking an opinion to any group larger than about two.

Jeff
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Casey



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff,

Your attention to detail is laudable, but in this case I (personally) would not be bothered if the embroidery logo is deleted.

I have no strong feelings either way.

Best,
Casey
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for asking our opinions, Jeff.

I would prefer really comfortable seats with good foam over pretty with the logo. Having said that, the logo on the seats is appealing. So, comfortable and a logo would be even MORE appealing.

Not much help, huh? Wink

REALLY glad to hear you are producing new C-Dorys! Thumbs Up

Best wishes,
Jim B.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Jeff,

I appreciate your apprehension for asking and I hope my following analogy makes a point.

I have ridden motorcycles now for 53 years and have never had one run better or faster by adding chrome.

Regards,

Ron Fisher
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My vote is for comfort and durability, not really important to me if it is even a "c-dory" seat as long as the boat itself is! Great to hear from you.
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Tortuga



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've played on boats for most of the last 40 years, and though there have been times I've cursed manufacturers for skimping here or there, I've never cursed the lack of a logo.

Quality construction materials, skilled labor, proper fit and finish, appropriate use of marine grade hardware throughout -- and at an affordable price point. These are what brought me to C-Dory. If I had to choose between an emboidered logo and a higher grade foam or fabric it wouldn't be close. As you indicate, the little things are important, and they need to be paid for. So... if I were making the trade-off...

Matt

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digger



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think quality is not necessarily indicated by a logo. As previously stated, good foam or support is more important than a logo, especially if it is an either/or situation. The cleats, hatch, and windows don't say C-Dory, but they function well and are quality products. Hope you have success with the C-Dory product line, and continue to make improvements along the way. Ron
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For us the logo is unimportant - didn't even know it had one.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having had to rebuild and restuff a seat in order to save my better side from further harm, I would spend any money and time on a better PREFORMING seat. I don't have the c-dory logo and don't see a need for one on the seats.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:38 pm    Post subject: Seat Logo Reply with quote

Jeff,

I don't think my CD 22 has a logo on the captain's seat. I will however add my voice to those who are requesting a more comfortable seat. We use our boat more for fishing than for cruising, so the issue didn't come up until the Lake Powell trip this year. Some of the legs of our trip were six or more hours of putting, and I thought that my butt was going to fall off when I tried to get up after a long time at the helm.

Before I forget it, THANK YOU for asking.

Steve

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there you go! "The seat has a logo on it?!" We echo Bill, it really doesn't matter at all. And to echo others, we know you and Scott and the whole crew are maniacs about attention to detail. "Blasting through the learning curve" hopefully died with the end of the Tom Latham era (sorry guys, you know I can't help myself!) .

Now my question to you, Jeff - is the logo on the outside going to say "C-Dory" with "Wright Brothers, Bellingham, WA" underneath it or what? Laughing


El and Bill wrote:
For us the logo is unimportant - didn't even know it had one.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You restuffed the seat to save Susan's butt????



starcrafttom wrote:
Having had to rebuild and restuff a seat in order to save my better side from further harm, I would spend any money and time on a better PREFORMING seat.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:43 pm    Post subject: rather have a good, sturdy, quality, comfortable seat Reply with quote

Jeff,

Good to see you here. Thanks for asking. It shows you are keeping true to what you told us at your visit to the Bellingham CBGT, That you were wanting to do a quality product that continued to appeal to discerning boaters.

My vote, I'd rather have a good, sturdy, quality, comfortable seat, Thumbs Up than a pretty one.

Harvey
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I for one like the embroidered logo - I think its a nice touch. Would be willing to forego it if you could find a fix for the *#$ leaky cockpit hatches in the CD 25's.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff,

Same here, high density foam and some lumbar support beats the logo anytime.

Thanks much for asking. Very best wishes.

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