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Joy
Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 49 City/Region: Rainier
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Joy
Photos: Joy
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:50 pm Post subject: How to price a 22' Cruiser |
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Wonder if I could get some advise on how to price my boat for sale? I am looking a purchasing a 2010 TC255 but need to sell C-Joy first. So would appreciate some advise and perhaps advertising media to use.
I have a 2005 fully loaded, this was to be the ideal last boat, so there isn't much that was not installed.
Thanks in advance
Randy[color=blue][/color] _________________ Randy Woodson
C-JOY
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Sneaks
Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 2020 City/Region: San Diego (Encinitas)
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: C-Brat
Photos: Jenny B and C-Brat
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty easy choice. The largest number of serious prospective C-Dory buyers cruise through this site and the for sale listings. Buyers can occasionally find good deals on Craigs List but I would trust a Brat seller long before Craigs List sellers.
If you are gonadally advantaged, put it up on Ebay with no reserve. In any case, wherever you market it list EVERYTHING including canvas, model numbers, factory and add on options and trailer ratings if applicable, and add plenty of photos.
With that said, most of your lookie-loo buyers will ask "what comes with the boat" . Serious buyers read.
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
Photos: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Great advice from Sneaks! He knows, he had to sell his C-Dory! It's indeed a sad day when your health makes you give up one of the things you love most in your life! Dadmnit! Love ya, Don!
As to the price, look through the adds here on the listings on the Homepage, and also the ones in the Classified Archives, and find out what the ones most similar to yours were asking. This doesn't tell you what they sold for, but it will help you set an initial asking price.
Start a little high or optimistic, and come down step by step after a while if you seem to need to, or are in a hurry.
The prices "ain't what they used to be", but that might also work in your direction when buying the Tomcat, but maybe not with a a new boat. It certainly would if you were buying a used boat instead.
Good luck with your sale.
By the way-
Have you tried to work out a trade-in with a dealer?
Also, you might even include in your ad that you'd be willing to trade up with some cash to someone with a Tomcat that wanted to move down to a more efficient or affordable model.
Give it a go, and we'll be waiting to hear your new Tomcat purring!
Joe.  _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
 
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
Photos: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:31 am Post subject: |
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Opps! Duplicate post! |
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jack&susan
Joined: 26 Jul 2009 Posts: 6 City/Region: Olga
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:32 am Post subject: 22 Cruiser |
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I will be looking for a 22 Cruiser soon so when you decide to put it on the market let me know. |
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nesibus
Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 18
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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I think c-dorys are priced like houses USE to be....way OVER their value.
Just cause people pay $500,000 for a $150,000....does not make it worth that price.
The little motors on c-dorys are worth $2-3k by the time they are sold, and the fiberglass body of the hull has a magical price that seems to add $20k
My view....just cause some idiot paid $25k for a boat nada.com has at $8k....I'm not going to do the same.
Aside from having a pilot house, good fuel economy....there is nothing to justify half the prices I see. |
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jhwilson
Joined: 18 Jan 2007 Posts: 214 City/Region: Mitchell County
State or Province: NC
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Placid C
Photos: Placid C
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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nesibus wrote: | I think c-dorys are priced like houses USE to be....way OVER their value.
Just cause people pay $500,000 for a $150,000....does not make it worth that price.
The little motors on c-dorys are worth $2-3k by the time they are sold, and the fiberglass body of the hull has a magical price that seems to add $20k
My view....just cause some idiot paid $25k for a boat nada.com has at $8k....I'm not going to do the same.
Aside from having a pilot house, good fuel economy....there is nothing to justify half the prices I see. |
Nesibus,
I hope you will continue to enjoy your bow rider while us idiots will enjoy our C-Dorys.
Harper _________________ Pat and Harper, Mitchell County, NC |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21513 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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The C Dory has retained its value, that is little depreciation from the initial purchase price--at least until the last few years. The boats had a very good reputation, the company had a good reputation. There were more people who wanted boats than boats which were built. The pricing thus follows free market capitalism. Howver, in the last few years other factors come into play. There have been changes of the ownership of the company, there have been more boats produced and more of a mass market type of sales approach. Then the recession. All of these factors have tended to bring the C Dory prices down.
There are many other quality boats which also retain the initial value--for example try and buy a "Cheap" Nordhavn 46--they have been steadily increasing in value.
As for Nesibus, apparently his credit union only uses NADA and thus he seems to think that C Dories should sell for less--a complaint he has opined in the past. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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Tortuga
Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 320 City/Region: Ventura
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1994
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Tortuga
Photos: Tortuga
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Aside from having a pilot house, good fuel economy.... |
superior construction, seaworthy hardware, low maintenance costs, access to every nook and crany, proven design, ease of maintenance... _________________ Tortuga
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Don and Brenda
Joined: 22 Feb 2009 Posts: 588 City/Region: Camano Island, Wa
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2011
C-Dory Model: R-27 Tug
Photos: C-Quest
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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When I first started looking over a year ago I thought I would never be able to afford one. I had purchased my 2006 Striper for 23,000 new and it was hard to think the C-Dory was so much more. However, I just waited for the right one to come along. Right color, motors ect and I went for it. Of course that was after much pleading and begging from the wife. This is the boat I have been looking for, for the type of boating I plan to do during my retirement, which is still 5 years away. I figure it will take me several years to get the boat set up the way I want for inside passage cruising. The boat is sitting in Washington and I am in Calif dreaming of all the upgrades that I wish to complete. The upgrades that many of the brats have done has one salivating. |
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Wandering Sagebrush
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2784 City/Region: Northeast Oregon
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Constant Craving
Photos: Constant Craving
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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nesibus wrote: | I think c-dorys are priced like houses USE to be....way OVER their value.
Just cause people pay $500,000 for a $150,000....does not make it worth that price.
The little motors on c-dorys are worth $2-3k by the time they are sold, and the fiberglass body of the hull has a magical price that seems to add $20k
My view....just cause some idiot paid $25k for a boat nada.com has at $8k....I'm not going to do the same.
Aside from having a pilot house, good fuel economy....there is nothing to justify half the prices I see. |
Man, did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, or are you just trying to provoke a flame? I hope you found the boat that best suits your needs. _________________ "And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years." - Abraham Lincoln |
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Fairbro
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 313 City/Region: Prescott
State or Province: WI
C-Dory Year: 2001
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Minnie Swann
Photos: Minnie Swann
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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nesibus, i was once told that my bids for repair work were out of site ridiculous by my many competitors. My reply: When I run out of well paying work and have to do cheap work to keep busy I will be right down there with you. I'll never live my life by what I can do without. _________________ Gary & Gerrie former Minnie Swann owners
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nesibus
Joined: 03 Sep 2007 Posts: 18
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:55 am Post subject: |
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Wandering Sagebrush wrote: | nesibus wrote: | I think c-dorys are priced like houses USE to be....way OVER their value.
Just cause people pay $500,000 for a $150,000....does not make it worth that price.
The little motors on c-dorys are worth $2-3k by the time they are sold, and the fiberglass body of the hull has a magical price that seems to add $20k
My view....just cause some idiot paid $25k for a boat nada.com has at $8k....I'm not going to do the same.
Aside from having a pilot house, good fuel economy....there is nothing to justify half the prices I see. |
Man, did you get up on the wrong side of the bed this morning, or are you just trying to provoke a flame? I hope you found the boat that best suits your needs. |
No.....see...the problem is, I will most likely pay the high price someone is asking, and kick myself later if I try to resell it anywhere around my area. Most likely no one will buy it, we have a dealer that sells ranger tugs....he has sold a grand total of.....1.
So if I try to sell a used one with all of our banks using nada as a value...I will have a heck of a time trying to get rid of it unless someone far away wants it.
Big boats around here are a dime a dozen, so a diesel trawlers, and extremely cheap. If they had to choose between a yacht or the tug, it seems people go for the yachts and houseboats in that same price range.....more bang for the buck basically.
I think the boat is more of a novelty to certain people, and it will only be those people who purchase it, and they don't exist anywhere around this coast line. |
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Wefings Dealer
Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 2086 City/Region: Panhandle
State or Province: FL
Photos: Cruise Ship #4
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:00 am Post subject: |
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Nesibus, We sell boats to all 50 states and ship them out of the country as well . Perhaps you are dealing with the wrong people . You are worried about a value in a book instead of enjoying your life and getting what you want . Invest in your own enjoyment before you grow old from worrying !
C Dorys are worth more because of their unique design and high quality and timeless appeal.
They break the rules . In a good way.
My .002$ _________________ Wefings Marine Website
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Fishhawk
Joined: 18 Mar 2007 Posts: 245 City/Region: Bon Secour
State or Province: AL
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Osprey
Photos: Osprey
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:15 am Post subject: |
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nesibus,
I am afraid you can expect very little sympathy or agreement around here.
A boat's value along with virtually any other product being sold, is based on what someone is willing to pay. Period
The fact that you are here at all means to me that you are a wannabe. My advice to you is save your money and bite the bullet like the rest of us.
Good luck with that.
Capt Dan _________________ "We intend to alleviate global warming's effects of raising ocean water levels by removing enough fish to counteract it all! "
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