Dingy motor

kennharriet · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:27 pm Post subject: Dingy motor

Does anyone have any knowledge or experience with these 4 strokes for a dingy motor?

http://www.smalloutboardmotor.com/index.html

jennykatz · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:01 pm Post subject: engines

They look interesting I wonder if they would push a 22 or 23 c-dory .Also is the 4 stroke 1-3 star compliant ? That would be the question .If it does then I would go with a 4 stroke if it could push the 22

kennharriet · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject:

I was considering this as a dingy motor because it only weighs 20 lbs. The price seems very reasonable compared to other 4 strokes in the 2 hp range. I wonder about it being air cooled. Would be nice if someone would buy one so I could borrow it. Any takers?

journey on · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:03 am Post subject:

I wonder if this is a reprise of the Curse 'n Tarry (Cruise 'n Carry)? I had one and for 2 HP it was great.

As indicated, air cooled AND with a neutral. 2-stroke and loud. Balance that by cheap and light. Note that the motor make is BridgeStone, who built Japanese M/C's in the '60s. It's probably the o'l Curse 'n Tarry transferred to China and updated.

I had that motor for a couple of years, donated it to a church and last I heard it was in the Congo. Running when I donated it, but the problem was 2 HP is 2 HP.

If you can use 2 HP, can take a little noise, try it.

Boris

Valkyrie · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:17 am Post subject:

That does remind me of the Cruise 'n Carry. I had one in 2.7 HP which weighed 12.7 pounds and it pushed my Achilles with authority. It was a noisy, air-cooled thing, but very reliable. The company that made them actually made lightweight leaf-blowers and then adapted the technology to outboards. I still have a used one here at home.

Nick
"Valkyrie"

localboy · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:00 am Post subject:

They look like gas powered "weed wackers" with props instead of a spinning head of line.

lloyds · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:01 am Post subject:

looks like a remade curse and tarry to me. I won't be the first one to take the chance. I had one of those things and it was a disaster.

Doryman · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:44 am Post subject:

Are those like a Seagull?

Warren

Matt Gurnsey · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:54 am Post subject:

I have not seen these before.

I can tell you that we take a fair number of Honda 2 Horse models in trade because of the noise of the air cooled engine, so I imagine these will be even noisier.

Imagine your seed whacker or leaf blower running full out behind your boat for hours on end. Bring the ear plugs....

BTW- Since these are not for sale in California, they are not three star compliant.

kennharriet · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:34 pm Post subject:

Sooo... Maybe you could all go together and buy one. Then I could borrow it and check it out. That way, none of us would be out much. Teeth

breausaw · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:09 pm Post subject:

localboy · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:28 pm Post subject:

For another ~30% of what one costs you could get a Suzuki 2.5 horse; 3 star rated, water cooled and weighs in at about 30 lbs.

Sea Wolf · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject:

My opinion is that a lot of the smallest outboards are unnecessarily noisy, unreliable, rough running, and difficult to operate because of their design.

When possible get an engine that has:

1. two cylinders; they're much smoother than just one.

2. water cooled; it runs cooler to the touch, and is usually a more sophisticated, purpose-built engine, not an adaptation of a lawnmower, generator, weed-whacker, chainsaw, or other type of engine.

3. has a F-N-R gearshift, or at least a F-N set up; they're much easier to maneuver with than a direct drive, or even a centrifugal clutch system.

4. is light enough to handle easily; the older non-EPA compliant 2-cycle ones are lighter than the newer 4 strokes, but it's a tough trade-off, and you have to mix the gas and oil, etc. As one gets older, a 34 lb outboard looks increasingly better than a 47 lb one.

5. another nice feature is to have a motor that will run off either it's internal gas tank or an external one, especially if you're going to use it both on a dinghy and as a kicker motor.

That would be my shopping list, along with some research into the history of the reliability, repair record, and parts availability of any motor I was considering.

Joe. Teeth

kennharriet · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject:

Thanks for all the input! I did recently purchase the 6 hp Tohatsu as a kicker. At 57 lbs. I decided it is too much to transfer as a dingy motor. I really do not want to rig a davit system to transfer it. So I am looking at single purpose dingy motor options.

Maybe a better question to ask all of you. What is the lightest, 4 stroke, water cooled, quiet, quality, dingy motor out there?

thataway · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject:

The 2.5 hp Suzuki as mentioned is a great 4 stroke true marine motor. A lot of power (and I am sure a lot more "push") than the leaf blower type of motor referenced above. It is only 29 lbs, and we have used one for 3 years with excellent results. For the small dinghy, I like the internal tank. For a bigger dinghy the external fuel tank is a plus. From what I have seen of the Cruise and Carry or mighty mite, they were not the best.

Not like a Sea Gull. The Seagulls were some what excentric, but still very reliable engines.

i disagree slightly with Joe. I used to think that the small 2 cyl outboards were better, but the current generation of 4 stroks, are smooth, and very reliable. I have had much less problems with them, than the older 2 cyl engines.