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Jack in Alaska
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 Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 3:05 am Post subject: Kendall propane stove |
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My boat came with a Kendall propane, single burner stove. It uses a small canister that fits into the stove on the right side. It only uses those and I can not find any up here in Alaska.
Is the stove worth keeping??
Where can I get canisters??
Options??
Thanks for the help.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Jack-
Here's a great site that discusses different brands and types of propane stoves and canisters, etc. :
Liquefied Petroleum Gas Burners, aka Canister Stoves and Gaz Stoves
See if you can find your cannister type under the "Canister Types" section.
Joe.  
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Jack I have the Kendall butane stove and I'm satisfied with it. Like you I had trouble finding the butane canisters and on the advice from someone on the site I ordered a case from and e-bay supplier and they were less than $2 a can including shipping. I find a canister last about 4 days of normal boat camping. I've been told that Oriental food stores have the canisters also.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| marvin4239 wrote: | | Jack I have the Kendall butane stove and I'm satisfied with it. Like you I had trouble finding the butane canisters and on the advice from someone on the site I ordered a case from and e-bay supplier and they were less than $2 a can including shipping. I find a canister last about 4 days of normal boat camping. I've been told that Oriental food stores have the canisters also. |
Marvin-
Can you give us a cannister type or model number?
The stove is probably made over there in the Orient (isn't everything, though), but has not been modified for U.S. / Canada available type canisters. Probably available at Oriental Markets because some are brought over by immigrants or ordered online by them from there.
I remember reading about one of the types of canisters being available at Oriental markets.
Is it this one?
 
From the source I revered to in the earlier post:
"There are several companies that make butane cartridges for portable stoves. One such design has a bayonet male fitting and a collar with a notch in it. These canister may cost a little less than their wider based brothers and may be easier to pack. You may be able to find these canisters at boat shops for a price or at Asian markets for very very cheap."
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marvin4239
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Sea Wolf"] | marvin4239 wrote: | Marvin-
Can you give us a cannister type or model number?
The stove is probably made over there in the Orient (isn't everything, though), but has not been modified for U.S. / Canada available type canisters. Probably available at Oriental Markets because some are brought over by immigrants or ordered online by them from there.
I remember reading about one of the types of canisters being available at Oriental markets.
Is it this one?
From the source I revered to in the earlier post:
"There are several companies that make butane cartridges for portable stoves. One such design has a bayonet male fitting and a collar with a notch in it. These canister may cost a little less than their wider based brothers and may be easier to pack. You may be able to find these canisters at boat shops for a price or at Asian markets for very very cheap."
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Joe that's the type my stove uses. If you notice the top of the can has a notch in it that aligns with the kendall stove. Actually West Marine carries them and they are $5.99 each. I'm going out in a little while to my garage to see if I have the information on the e-bay guy I ordered mine from it was a really good deal. You sometimes see these being used on buffet table type equipment. |
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marvin4239
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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| The name of the company I got my cannisters from is GASONE the model is gas-1 DOT - 2D Dot reg M4015. I couldn't find my original receipt but a e-bay search for butane canister should bring up several suppliers. Mine came shipped 28 cans to the case and it was around $1.80 a can including shipping. The canisters are made in Korea and as far a quality they seemed to be the same as the canisters I had bought at West Marine for $5.99 a can also made in Korea. I don't think butane is as highly compressed as propane which may make it a little safer but this is just a guess on my part. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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I just bought some of those canisters that are shown in the picture above at "Big 5 Sporting Goods" for a $1.99 ea. They only had 6 so I bought them all.
I guess I didn't know that I got such a deal !
Big Dave.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Jack,
Try and find propane bottles for your stove. My experience with different butane stoves is they don't work very well up here in spring or fall. |
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rogerbum
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Nunya wrote: | Jack,
Try and find propane bottles for your stove. My experience with different butane stoves is they don't work very well up here in spring or fall. |
I wouldn't recommend trying to run propane on a stove designed for butane (unless of course the stove is designed to use both). At room temperature, the vapor pressure of propane is about 110PSI where as butane is only about 30PSI. Stove components designed for butane may not handle the higher pressure of propane.
However, you're definitely correct that butane won't work very well in cold weather as it's vapor pressure is low when things get cold. Also it the gas/liquid inside gets even colder as the liquid evaporates and the gas expands to feed the burner.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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Good thinking, Roger!
I'd hope that there are standards for each type of canister in terms of what pressures it is designed for and what gas or mixture of gases are allowed therein. Regulations and compliance will obviously vary a lot from country to country, though.
I know I've read where propane and butane are mixed in certain types of containers to keep the vapor pressure high enough to allow them to operate and supply gas to stoves at high altitudes and cold temperatures for backpackers, ice fishermen,etc.
Much the same is done for users of propane and butane stoves in domestic situations where the gas supplier mixes the two gases to avoid cold temperature non-supply issues during the cold weather of winter, etc.
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| Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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OK, folks, here's the best way to get butane cartridges. I just did it, and can now check one more thing of the getting-ready-for-cruising list.
Look in the yellow pages for oriental grocery stores. In Escondido, there were 2 ea. Stopping in at the nearest (a Thai food hole-in-the-wall,) I found packages of 4 ea. for $6.50 (+Arnie's cut.) Bought all they had (5) and was told they'd have more Thursday. $1.80/can. Includes tax
e-bay has them for 12 cans for $16. But wait, shipping is $18.50. Which works out to be $2.90/can Including shipping, but no tax. If you're from Ca, big Arnie wants his cut.
The important part is the convenience. If there's no oriental grocery nearby, e-bay may be better. You now have a choice. And they're all from Korea.
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