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Tortuga
Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 320 City/Region: Ventura
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1994
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Tortuga
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject: Tohatsu 6 hp as Kicker for 22 |
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I'm thinking about buying a Tohatsu 6 hp as a kicker for my 22. It's a light engine -- admittedly with less power than may be optimal. But, I like the weight (55 pounds) and I like that I can use it on my dink as well.
Plus, a friend is selling it cheap (it's a 2006 and he wants $500). He got it for an inflatable kayak but (not surprisingly) it isn't working out -- too much flex.
It's a 20" so it would fit the boat well -- if a bit long for the dink.
Any thoughts? I've run a Ranger 26 sailboat all over the San Francisco Bay area on an old Evinrude 6 with no problem. The Ranger is heavier, though has less windage.
Anyone running a 6 hp as a kicker??
Matt _________________ Tortuga
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amy and karl
Joined: 18 Aug 2006 Posts: 230 City/Region: Graham
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-DAISY
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:52 pm Post subject: Tohatsu 6hp |
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Hi Matt,
We have the exact motor on C-Daisy. It works great on the dinghy but is marginal on the 22. It is fairly easy to move from the 22 to the dinghy. We added a strap handle to make it easier. We have done some trolling with it on flat water and it gets by. Certainly not the optimal trolling motor though. Good luck. For $500 we'd certainly do it again.
Karl |
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Robbi
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 1193 City/Region: Chambers Bay
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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I run that motor as a kicker on my 19. It will push the boat about 5 or 6 knots with no current or wind. I guess it depends on where you use your boat and what your needs are. If you want a "slow", lightweight kicker that you can mount on your dink, go for it. Great price!
Robbi _________________ 2023 C-Dory 23 Venture Sport
2003 C-Dory 19
sold 2019
2004 C-Dory 16 Cruiser
Sold 8/2015
2004 C-Dory 19 "C-Run"
Sold 8/2011
1989 C-Dory 16 Angler
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21370 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:07 am Post subject: |
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My thought is that it is plenty for a kicker--you will get hull speed. I have used an 8hp 20" shaft on a dinghy--it was OK--but if you are going to try to plane the boat, it will be a bit squirrelly, with the prop lower. Also it will be more difficult to get the lower unit to clear the bottom as you come to the shore--it will probably not be all of the way out of the water. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
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C-Pelican
Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 184 City/Region: SoCal
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:49 am Post subject: |
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I have the exact same brand and hp motor you spoke of and it moves the boat at 5 mph and I too transfer it to my dinghy and it does well.
Had it two years now.
Jeff |
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Tortuga
Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 320 City/Region: Ventura
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C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the feedback -- I appreciate all of the experience. I'm gonna move on to step two and borrow the engine to see how it pushes the boat. Seems like it will be a good fit -- and save some $$.
Matt |
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416rigby
Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 1208 City/Region: Port Angeles
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Be sure to check your local area for service folks. We have an 8hp Nissan, which is somehow related to Tohatsu...and there are darn few places here to have one worked on. We found a local gent who did some work for us. Just food for thought.
The 8hp is a great kicker.
Rick _________________ "Life's too short to hunt with an ugly gun"
At last...home for good in the Great Northwest!
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Tortuga
Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 320 City/Region: Ventura
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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416rigby wrote: | Be sure to check your local area for service folks. We have an 8hp Nissan, which is somehow related to Tohatsu...and there are darn few places here to have one worked on. We found a local gent who did some work for us. Just food for thought.
The 8hp is a great kicker.
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Good point. We actually have several Nissan/Tohatsu dealers in So Cal. I've had good luck with Inflatable Boat Specialists in Ventura Harbor on price and service on the small outboards (I have an old 2.5 Nissan that they're keeping alive). In fact, I bought my new Yamaha 90 from them based on my experience with their service. The other Yamaha dealer in town (Pacific Marine Repair) couldn't be bothered to return my phone call after I told them I wanted to repower to the new 90. I suppose the economy is hitting some shops harder than others. That said, Pacific Marine does excellent work -- though pricey.
Matt |
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Sam Walker
Joined: 26 Mar 2004 Posts: 196 City/Region: Wherever the RV is today
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Good Evening, Folks. The Nissan and Tohatsu are the same motor. They are both made by Tohatsu and badged differently. (Think Chevrolet and GMC Trucks). I have a 6 hp Nissan on for my small boat. It runs great. Just make sure that you change the impeller annually.  _________________ Sam on C's The Day or maybe Marinauty (Someday)
It does not matter how many moments that you take a breath, It is how many moments take your breath away. |
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1807 City/Region: Wasilla
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 9:22 am Post subject: Re: Tohatsu 6 hp as Kicker for 22 |
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Tortuga wrote: | I'm thinking about buying a Tohatsu 6 hp as a kicker for my 22. It's a light engine -- admittedly with less power than may be optimal. But, I like the weight (55 pounds) and I like that I can use it on my dink as well.
Plus, a friend is selling it cheap (it's a 2006 and he wants $500). He got it for an inflatable kayak but (not surprisingly) it isn't working out -- too much flex.
It's a 20" so it would fit the boat well -- if a bit long for the dink.
Any thoughts? I've run a Ranger 26 sailboat all over the San Francisco Bay area on an old Evinrude 6 with no problem. The Ranger is heavier, though has less windage.
Anyone running a 6 hp as a kicker??
Matt |
Matt,
Yeah, I do. But it is an 6hp envinrude twin and it moves the boat at about 4-6 mph wide open. I don't have it to get back to the dock, just to troll for salmon and for that it is perfect. I also use it on my dink which works out really well I think. But, if that 6 hp 4 stroke that you are buying is single cylinder, you may want to rethink what you're getting. I sold my Honda 5 hp (after one season) and bought the old evinrude twin because the single cylinder honda was a horrible shaker. Also, the honda was not particularly easy to start up but that is not why I sold it. It was because the shaking was that bad. From what I have heard, almost all the single cylinders outboards are that way. However, with all that said, I am sure that you will find the motor to be of excellent quality as they have been around for a long time. I have a friend up here that has twin 50s on the back of his cd 22 made by them that are DI 2 stokes and they have been very reliable. I am impressed with their power. However, bak to the subject; these motors are everywhere. Heck, even Cabelas sells them.....
Tim |
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Robbi
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 1193 City/Region: Chambers Bay
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:09 am Post subject: |
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I find the Tohatsu to be pretty smooth for a single. As I recall, I was told that the Honda and especially the Johnson were real shakers. Most new twin 6 hp are much heavier, I think the Yamaha is over 80 pounds, which defeats your dual purpose. Not sure what the older Evinrude weighs, but I do know that it is a highly sought after outboard at my husband's duck club.
BTW, I believe that the Merc 6 hp is also the same engine as the Nissan-Tohatsu.
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SeaSpray
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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H i Matt,
Did you buy the motor? If so - how is it working out?
Thanks,
Steve |
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Tortuga
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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I did buy the motor, and it seems to push the boat pretty well -- about 5 knots in a modest breeze. I don't yet know how it will push in current or heavy wind -- but I'm pretty confident the engine will perform as I need it to -- as a backup that will get me out of dangers way. It really seems to push well. At 50 pounds it seems like a reasonable compromise.
I'm going out to the Islands again tomorrow so if I see anything surprising re the motor I'll post.
Matt |
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Knotcute
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Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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I have been running a 20" inch Tohatsu 6 HP on my 16 cruiser for about a year. No problems so far, its been easy to start, easy on gas and it even got me home safely once when I lost my main. While I know this is not exactly the help you were looking for, I thought I would share my experiences with this motor anyway. Good Luck!  |
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jennykatz
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Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:31 am Post subject: 5 hp short shaft |
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How would a 5 hp short shaft (15 in ) work on the cc-23 a little heavier then the c-22 .My concern is the short shaft I would put a garlick retractable eng bracket on the transom change the prop .
Boaters world has the tohatsu for $900 Just some c-brats thoughts _________________ retired 8/08 from UAL, still working pt tm
Duck c-22 cruiser sold 6/23/08
06 Venture Cruiser with merc115CT
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