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Doryman



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: Tom Cat drawers Reply with quote

Anyone else having problems with things falling out of the Tom Cat's drawers (there's a joke there that I'm not touching with a 10' pole)? In both the drawer under the helm seat and under the forward-facing (aft) dinette seat, items have been disappearing. I fished out a portlight screen from the sponson behind the helm drawer and I am sure there is lots more back there. My suspicion is the items bounce out and to the rear of the drawer and eventually fall down in the sponson.

So, two questions: (a) Is this a problem for you, too, and (b) what have you done about it (including how do you retrieve lost items)?

Thanks,
Warren

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whew! I thought you were gonna tell us about your special catamaran skivvies! Crook

I can't help you with your lost stuff... Wild Blue doesn't go fast enough to toss her silverware. And if she did, it would just fall on our sloping floor. Wink I have to go wash out my brain now; I'm sure other TC folks will trade under-britches stories with you.

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matt_unique



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:04 pm    Post subject: Drawers Reply with quote

Definitely some good material in that post....but I lost the ships log from the drawer under the helm seat. I had a lot of detailed information in there and searched the house/boat high and low to no avail. Then when working on the heater I noticed a tiny portion of the logbook cover. Eureka! I found my log book and used pliers to fish it out from behind the water heater.

I have not lost anything else/since. I'm sure I stuffed the drawer a little too full prior to loosing the logbook.

No plans for any modifications - now I know to look down there if I loose something from that drawer.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warren,

I haven't lost anything that I know of but there could be reams of stuff down there. I'll have to take a look with my mirror on a stick! A person could attach a flexible dam at the back of the drawer with tape or staples that would discourage loose items from escaping. Closing the escape hatch would be another project. Hard to add anything back in there without disassembling the cabinet. Good luck.

Sorry things are a little cool down there in FL.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dreamer wrote:
Closing the escape hatch would be another project.


Roger, I am not sure what part of the boat you are referring to -- care to elucidate?

Warren
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll bet Roger is talking about building a box around the drawer, so that items can't fall out into the great void, or as Yelllow stone John calls a similar part of the State of Montana where he lives "The Big Empty"!

A simpler idea: Have Janet or some other talented seamstress sew a bag up the size of the drawer, then just put everything inside the bag, pull the drawstring or snap the snaps, and put the bag in the drawer.

If you don't have access to a seamstress, (or, more correctly, a seamsperson) you could simply use a plastic bag. Clear plastic would work best, so you could see the contents, and long enough to simply fold over with the opening neck of the bag underneath.

On the other hand, if you're a dedicated foe of the KISS Principle, you could

1. put a recessed hinged door just inside the top of the box, hinged at the back, like a safe deposit box, and

2. add a latch on the drawer lid, and

3. add a cam lock on the drawer face, and, finally

4. lock your valuables in the drawer, including whatever fell out of the TomCat's drawers.

Joe. Teeth Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question for my knowledge- are these boats built with the "stick built" interior or the fiberglass interior like the 2009's?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another possible fix is to add a thin plywood 'top' to the drawer.

This 'top' is only added to the back 1/4 to 1/3 of the drawer. This will prevent the 'stuff' from going up over the top of the drawer at the back.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matt Gurnsey wrote:
Question for my knowledge- are these boats built with the "stick built" interior or the fiberglass interior like the 2009's?


Matt, the 2006 model was the "stick built". I have one. I didn't know the bottom of that area was open to the sponson. I'll have to take a look at mine. I thought that drawer, the one under the helm seat, only had the water heater in it and that the heater was sitting on a solid platform, not open to the sponson below. I'll have to take a look at mine. I do know that the access to the shower sump is below the stove area just aft of that and is accessed through a hatch, like a small bowmar... Now I suppose things could fall back behind the water heater but I didn't know they could get all the way to the sponson.

I'm pretty sure the area aft of the dinette seat that has a drawer in it and a hatchlike area underneath is solid. (no opening to the sponson) I had looked at that area to put the marine A/C unit workings before I decided not to install it at all.

The TC255 I saw at SBS09 had a molded interior and I didn't pull things out to look in or open the area under the sink.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Access to sponson Reply with quote

Mine definitely does not have any openings to the sponsons in the cabin except for the forward bunk hatches.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll have to go look at the 2009 again- I don't recall any opening without hatches into the sponsons.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Access to sponson Reply with quote

matt_unique wrote:
Mine definitely does not have any openings to the sponsons in the cabin except for the forward bunk hatches.


My mistake! Embarrased

Everyone please ignore my reference to the sponsons. I meant behind the water heater.

Warren

P.S. Matt -- mine is stick built. I don't know of anyone who owns one of the new ones with the molded interior -- yet!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is solid material under the water heater, which is located below this drawer. There is quite a bit of space between the water heater and the hull outboard.
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