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Adeline
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:27 pm Post subject: Fish hook removal... OUCH! |
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THIS IS GONNA HURT _________________ Pete
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Capn Jack
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:38 pm Post subject: RE: OUCH !! |
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Been there done that. It's the best reason I've seen for "Barb-less" hooks. ... Jack |
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colobear
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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Its actually easier, but still painful, to push the hook through the skin so the barb is outside, then cut the barb off and withdraw the hook. Remember antiseptic! _________________ Patti and Barry
formerly C-Cakes, now
rving around N. America |
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rogerbum
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 5928 City/Region: Kenmore
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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Also been there but unlike the hook in the video, mine was barbed and in the tip of the index finger. I wound up at the UW emergency room where they gave me a lot of local anesthetic injections and (after I insisted) cut the shank and pushed it out point first. Was one of the most painful things I've experienced. Barbless = good. _________________ Roger on Meant to be |
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RJD Wannabe
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Why I carry Lidocaine and a syringe in my fishing box _________________ Soon to join C-Dory owners |
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Hunkydory
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Yes OUCH and then some!!! That photo brings back a little bit of bad and whole lot of good memories of a week long canoe trip I made with my youngest son on Yellowstone Lake just after his graduating from High School. We had camped for the night at the Promontory Point boat campsite when just before dark with a cast I buried two prongs of a three prong hook in my right cheek. Yellowstone Lake is a barbless hook fishing area, but it is legal to just crimp the barbs with pliers. Sure wished I had crimped them a lot better then I had. Found the skin on the face is much tougher then I ever dreamed it could be. Jayson pulled those those hooks way out there with no give. Finally He cut the hooks apart and that vibration I could feel right to my toes. He then tried to push them through as Roger described and though the skin seemed to stretch again in front of the point it wouldn't break through the skin. Ended up heating a knife tip and cutting them out. Found it very hard to hold still while he pulled and cut. What helped the most was taking my mind off it by videoing my face while Jayson did the job. Was a much better ending then spending the night with hooks in my face and then making the many mile run the next day across the lake to the lake hospital and was able to continue for several more days fishing, exploring and building wonderful memories.
Jay _________________ Jay and Jolee 2000 22 CD cruiser Hunkydory
I will not waste my days in trying to prolong them------Jack London
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matt_unique
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:02 pm Post subject: Ouch |
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One time a buddy of mine kindly lodged his lure into my face as he tried to cast. I feel your pain...ouch yours looks deeper and more painful I'm sure.
Hit it with the antiseptic and make sure tetanus is up to date! _________________ Captain Matt
Former owner of Napoleon (Tomcat) Hull #65 w/Counter Rotating Suzuki 150's. |
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Socrateur
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, but this one is not worth the battery power for the video cam used to photograph it. I do like the Maker's Mark whisky, though. _________________ Capt Jay |
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anticipationpc
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:32 pm Post subject: |
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I have been a Charter boat Captain for 30 years now. I have seen alot of hooks inbedded in hands, fingers, and even a face. There is a simple proceedure to remove the hook.
Take a 10" piece of heavy fishing line, loop it between the shank of the hook and where it meets the skin, twist the line 5-6 times, hold the line vertical to the hook shaft and close to the skin. Then with a quick hard yank jerk the hook out. The trick is to get the line as close as you can to the barb. Works every time! _________________ Jim C |
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Aiviq
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 5:09 am Post subject: |
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A trick that has always worked for me requires a good size hypodermic needle (an 18 or 20 gauge, depending on the size of the hook). You slide the needle along the wound track along the inside of the hook and engage the lumen (opening) of the hypodermic needle onto the barb of the hook. With the barb covered by the lumen of the needle, you have basically made the hook barbless, and it can be backed out easily with the needle remaining engaged on the barb. |
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rogerbum
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 5928 City/Region: Kenmore
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Aiviq wrote: | A trick that has always worked for me requires a good size hypodermic needle (an 18 or 20 gauge, depending on the size of the hook). You slide the needle along the wound track along the inside of the hook and engage the lumen (opening) of the hypodermic needle onto the barb of the hook. With the barb covered by the lumen of the needle, you have basically made the hook barbless, and it can be backed out easily with the needle remaining engaged on the barb. |
Now THAT's good information. Thanks, I usually have some hypodermic needles on board to allow me to deflate the swim bladders of yellow eye (which we have to release here in WA). Now I have another reason to carry them. |
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garyk
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 70 City/Region: Ketchum
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:23 pm Post subject: Fish hook removal... OUCH! |
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anticipationpc wrote: | I have been a Charter boat Captain for 30 years now. I have seen alot of hooks inbedded in hands, fingers, and even a face. There is a simple proceedure to remove the hook.
Take a 10" piece of heavy fishing line, loop it between the shank of the hook and where it meets the skin, twist the line 5-6 times, hold the line vertical to the hook shaft and close to the skin. Then with a quick hard yank jerk the hook out. The trick is to get the line as close as you can to the barb. Works every time! |
The hook removal procedure shown in the video and described by Jim C. is far and away the best way to remove a hook. The one step that was not pointed out which is VERY important. The eye of the hook must beheld down so it can not rotate. In the video simply holding the lure down, which is attached to the hook eye would keep the hook from rotating. I assume this was being done but was not shown. In the case of a smaller hook or fly, holding the eye down against the skin with your thumb while the barb is (yanked)out in the same direction it entered.
I've used this system many times in my 65 years of Alaskan sport fishing and guiding novice fisherman and woman.
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captd
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 7:33 am Post subject: |
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To wet your imagination: Fishing out of Prince of Wales for halibut. I was using a double # 9 circle hooks. Top one on a slide. We were catching 20 to 30 pounders and turning them loose. Trying to detach one while hanging it over the side the slider hook swung around and hooked the end of my finger. The hook went in and came out the opposite side. the fish seen to that. The fish had to come off the first thing. One of us needed immediate relief. A #9 is thick enough where we could not cut the shank. With a lot of work we flattened the barb. Then did the jerk thing.
Having had tainted salmon on the hook as bait. We needed to sterlized the wound. My wife came up with the solution. Pour iodine in one hole so it comes out the other. WRONG! Like putting a blow torch to your finger. I suggested Hydrogen proxide thinking that wouldn't hurt WRONG again. We injected it with a hypodermic. That was as badas the iodine, but it went all the way through.
Painfull to remember.
captd _________________ 100 ton Master
1986 Sport Craft 27 ft , 240 hrs Yanmar sold
2000 22 ft C-Dory (Hunky Dory) sold 2006
2007 25 R Ranger (Mis Dee) sold 2008
2009 25 R Ranger (Lucky Fin) sold
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garyk
Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 70 City/Region: Ketchum
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:18 pm Post subject: Fish hook removal... OUCH! |
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Captd,
Wow,
I've never had the need to try to remove a circle hook from any thing but a Halibut. My fishing buddy is good at it but I have a hell of a time getting one out of the fishes lip. I think that might be a good subject for the Brat's ......"How do you remove a circle hook, with out killing the fish"
We hooked a 100 lb plus Skate in the wing, didn't want to kill it , we had a hell of a time getting it out, the damn fish would not co-operate.
Gary |
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thataway
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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In any afterward. I like Betadine or Hydrogen Peroxide.
Also consider how you will remove a fish hook if you are alone? I found that pushing on through and cutting off the barb has worked best for me when I had to remove a hook (generally small) when alone. It is hard to stabalize the hook, the skin and jerk on the string when alone. But this is a good technique when several people are available. _________________ Bob Austin
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