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azygos



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject: Trailering a 22ft cruiser Reply with quote

Please, your thoughts on trailering a 22ft, single axel, 100hp, kicker with a 4x4 ,06 toyota tundra 4.7l v8. I'm told the truck will tow 6,000lbs ??, Again thanks for your thoughts
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T.R. Bauer



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No sweat at all.
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thataway



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some would consider that overkill! No problem with that truck. We towed ours at times with a Honda Pilot--which has a capacity of 4500 in boats--3500 in house trailers, and only a 2.6 liter engine. Now if you were asking about the 25, that would be another story.

It may be a good idea to weigh the boat and trailer on a certified scale.

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Wandering Sagebrush



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:15 pm    Post subject: Tundra Reply with quote

Bill and El are pulling Halcyon with a Tundra (as memory serves), so there could be no better recommendation. I used a T100 V6 to pull our boat on occasion. It was a bit slow/underpowered on the climbs, but did fine.

I believe you will be more than happy with the Tundra.

Steve

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My only concern would be brakes on the trailer. Not that you really need it. the toyota should weight enough. its just that extra safety for peace of mind. having been passed by a trailer I was towing on more then one occasion I really like trailer brakes.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:27 am    Post subject: Towing Reply with quote

No way, you need this at a minimum:

http://www.c-brats.com/modules.php?set_albumName=Napoleon&id=truck_1&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php

Ha!

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the 2006 Tundra you described has a towing capacity of 6900 pounds. My 2005 Tacoma 4X4 crew cab, with the 4L, V6, has a towing capacity of 6500 pounds. I have probably put close to 20,000 miles on it towing my loaded 22 cruiser and have had no problems what so ever. I agree with what others have said that your proposed truck will do just fine.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We tow ours with a Dodge Grand Caravan minivan with no problems at all. Longest trip was 3+ hours up to the Mount Desert area last summer, and back.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your truck has an automatic transmission, I would suggest you add a transmission cooler for piece of mind. It has the highest rise in temperature when going up a steep grade and most drivers aren't even aware how hot their transmission got because the truck keeps going but it does have long term wear and tear. The stop and go of trailering in city traffic is just as bad.

The best transmission cooler I have used is one that can be mounted under the bed of the truck with a fan to provide air flow. When making a steep grade or in stop and go city traffic, you do not get sufficient air flow to cool the transmission cooler mounted in front of your radiator. This extra heat will now be transferring hot air to your radiator, which causes your engine to overheat. By mounting the transmission cooler underneath your truck, your radiator has unrestricted air flow. But you have to use a fan mounted to the transmission cooler to provide the cooling air flow in slow traffic or a steep grade.

The 4-wheel drive is an added safety factor. If you ever had to pull out of a ramp in low tide, the slime on the ramp could cause you to lose traction and the drive of the front wheels can help you pull out in situations where 2-wheel drive cannot do the job.

A word of caution, when a truck towing rating says it is 6,000 lbs., I suspect it means ability to tow on flat land, no wind. When you start adding 100-degree temperatures, stop and go traffic, steep grades, and...any obstructions like pilot house cabins, the ratings are now not realistic.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad Boy wrote:
A word of caution, when a truck towing rating says it is 6,000 lbs., I suspect it means ability to tow on flat land, no wind. When you start adding 100-degree temperatures, stop and go traffic, steep grades, and...any obstructions like pilot house cabins, the ratings are now not realistic.


Listen to the man. The voice of experience! I pulled my previous 22' boat, which weighs about the same as a CD 22, with a Dodge 1500 rated for 7700 #. Could not handle mountain passes at much more than 35 mph without overheating.

Warren

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doryman wrote:
Bad Boy wrote:
A word of caution, when a truck towing rating says it is 6,000 lbs., I suspect it means ability to tow on flat land, no wind. When you start adding 100-degree temperatures, stop and go traffic, steep grades, and...any obstructions like pilot house cabins, the ratings are now not realistic.


Listen to the man. The voice of experience! I pulled my previous 22' boat, which weighs about the same as a CD 22, with a Dodge 1500 rated for 7700 #. Could not handle mountain passes at much more than 35 mph without overheating.

Warren


I'll 3rd that. I hauled my 22' pilothouse Campion from Dana Point to Portland with my 1/2 ton V-8 Explorer. I made it but it was very hard on the vehicle, especially pulling the Grapevine and Siskyous. Fried a wheel bearing in the process. Short hops are fine but no mountains.

-Greg
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your truck is a good choice.

The only caveat I’d have is the single axel, have an additional axel installed if you launch your boat every time.

If you’re towing your boat at highway speeds to launch and your traveling more then say 30 to 50 miles each way duel axles will add an additional margin of safety.

When the time comes to do a high speed emergency maneuver duel axels will save your bacon, additionally, you don’t want to experience a single axel blowout on the freeway.

Also, if you’re launching in salt consider sealed oil bath wheel bearings.

Jay Very Happy Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Under our new C-Dory's we put a 3700 pound capacity single axle trailer. Trailer itself weighs 890 pounds, so max would be under 4500 pounds.

Should be no sweat.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You all probably already know that the towing capacity INCLUDES all the weight IN the truck also - passengers, gear, etc..

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to disagree with a dealer, but I would not recommend a single axel 3700 lb capacity (many trailers include the trailer weight in that capacity)--for a C Dory 22. I understand why that is done--it is a price point and many do not trailer long distances. The single axel treailer is fine for short distances and yard use. But I agree that a dual axel trailer with brakes on both axels is much safer for the c Dory 22 for long tows, especially in the mountains--it is different than a 22 foot deck boat.

Just a quick addition of normal load brings a 22 C Dory up to 3300 lbs--with fuel, water, ice, some food and gear.
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