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alandgin



Joined: 12 Nov 2006
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City/Region: Duluth, MN
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C-Dory Year: 2000
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew:
Thanks for your candidness and for keeping us up-to-date on the sale of the 25 Cruiser. Also, for your integrity in selling to Mark even tho there may be other higher bids. Thumbs Up Mention to Mark the C-Dory site, C-Brats, and encourage him to sign up. Perhaps he has already? Or, maybe has just been lurking?? Would be interesting to hear how the final sale went? And, good luck with the 53 Hatteras + the house selling!
Merry Christmas, Andrew and Alice!

Al S

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Byrdman



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew: Thought the 1st shot was a clean $48K as in the earlier post... You went up $2K...just for the interest.. Humm.. We do not do it that way down here. But, at least your.... 2nd shot...at $50 is still way fair, all be it a push of $2K.

Don't worry.... there have been times when I lost count on shots too... Cocktail Mr. Green Cocktail Wink

And as for our site here, I find it interesting to those who do not participate on our site often UNDERPRICE their boat just like it was any other hull. Ya gotta love hulls that really keep their value!!

And, as others have stated....I truly hope the new owners sign on in and meet up with us at some of the future gatherings.

Hug C-Dory Resale Values Hug Beer

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astasky



Joined: 14 Dec 2006
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City/Region: Albany,
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:53 am    Post subject: The real story Reply with quote

Byrdman, thank you for the kind words. After my Dory is gone and paid for I will then reveal what $ were pledged this morning for my Dory. That's the way we do things up here.
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Pete in NY



Joined: 11 Jul 2004
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City/Region: Western LI Sound, NY
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C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Miss Pam
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a former builder of small sailboats I look at things like Hull Identification Numbers on boats since they have a coded meaning per Coast Guard Regs.

HIN of the ebay boat from member list:
CD025042H304

CD0250 = manufacturer and model, 42 = hull number, H304 = August 3, 2004 (date of manufacture or certification and model year)

My HIN:
CD025072E404
(Hull number 72, date of manufacture or certification = May 4, 2004) I bought my boat new in July, 2004 from dealer stock in Florida

Anyone care to explain how hull number 42 was made 3 months after my boat’s hull number 72? (30 CD 25’s later when the factory was building 2-3 per month)

Was this a real deal or a phantom boat with wrong pictures and wrong HIN in an effort to influence used prices? Call me skeptical but I don’t always believe everything I see in print.

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Byrdman



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andrew: I would love to know what some of the nubmers were. I know what numbers were running thru my mind on what I "thought was in line" if the boat is in good shape and information on it accurate. It sort of falls in line with some links of past and of late on "accual cash values" of our C-Dory hulls...and insurance. Most of us pull way more for the hulls than the insurance will pay. ... interesting read.

I sold my 1st C-Dory to a gentleman a state away when he saw my post about me going to the NE to purchase the TC24. I could not believe I bought a boat motor and trailer, used it for 2+ years... and was offered just $300 less than I paid for it when I bought it. But, like you, I too found out that I might have been able to pull a little more... and.... have often wished I still had that hard core neat little boat.

Pete: Interesting point...but almost thinking a typo one someones part?? Maybe we can see a photo of the serial number too... Grin. Now, I see Andrew has no problem at all jacking the price when he can....but I just do not get the feeling he would do anything crazy like that... especially when folks know how and where to find him.

This has been fun.
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astasky



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:23 am    Post subject: Conspiracy theory? Reply with quote

I am getting embarrassed for you folks. Tell me where to post the pics I just shot of the hull #, the Honda # the trailer # and the NYS registration # and registration sticker.
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Byrdman



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Andrew.... we just can't be out playing on our boats today. Laughing Laughing

Without you having a photo album I am not sure how you can post it. But, if you want to email it to me, I can put it in mine and post it for you.

Some of use are just sicker than others... and I gotta be hooked on something...it just happens to be C-Dorys. CoolSmile
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astasky



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:36 am    Post subject: Uh Oh.... Reply with quote

Now who's embarrassed....? I just shot pics of all the numbers and in downloading them I see an error. A big one. The hull number is CD025042I304, that is correct "I304" and the NYS official title reads "H304". I had never confirmed them as I bought the boat from a friend/dealer cash. This may or may not be an issue. I will call Mark now on his cell as he is enroute right now and advise. Crow doesn't taste too good.
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Sneaks



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City/Region: San Diego (Encinitas)
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C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: C-Brat
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete in NY wrote:


My HIN:
CD025072E404
(Hull number 72, date of manufacture or certification = May 4, 2004) I bought my boat new in July, 2004 from dealer stock in Florida

Anyone care to explain how hull number 42 was made 3 months after my boat’s hull number 72? (30 CD 25’s later when the factory was building 2-3 per month)


Actually, I would be more interested in knowing how the factory managed to build 72 2004 CD25's before May 4, 2004.

This whole thread turned into a witch hunt AFAIC. Well past our normal "Brattiness" paranoia. All those numbers have given me a headache, so it's time to go enjoy the rain showers on the bay. Maybe a glass of wine this evening while watching the San Diego weatherheads gleefully celebrating the fact that they finally have something to talk about.

Don

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Pete in NY



Joined: 11 Jul 2004
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City/Region: Western LI Sound, NY
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C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gee, this is interesting. "I" = September 2004 a month later. How was hull # 42 built now 4 months after hull number 72. A further check of "Our C-Dory's" shows other HIN's in sequence from earlier in 2004 with the correct coding. See C-Dragon HIN # CD025070B404. Hull # 70 "B404" = February, 2004.
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Byrdman



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don... you are killing me... over here on the east side... I am about to wake up Sherryl as to allow us to go to the furniture shop. Shoot me... "beam" me over your way and I'll go with you.

This is interesting. Just how many CD25s were built in 2004?
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alandgin



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete, my HIN is DOR15394E000 -- that means May 2000, but how about day??? May 00, 2000?? Thanks!
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Robbi



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is that in a HIN the letter is the month of munufacture, the next number is the year of manufacture, and the last two are the model year.

so DOR 1539 4E 0 00 is a C-Dory model 15 number 39 build May of 2000 and is a model year 2000. Robbi

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astasky



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 11:57 am    Post subject: Hull #s published Reply with quote

Everyone,
I have photographed my boat's numbers and published here.
www.upstatenyhouseforsale.com
Go to top right of first page and click on C-Dory #s.
I will contact the original dealer down in I believe Delaware somewhere. I have the original paperwork on my Hatteras and will gather them Monday and figure this out. Interesting sluthing on your parts. As with everything in life, I'm sure there is a logical explanation for this. I will advise.

Andrew
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting ...boring stuff here that just sorta makes ya go hummm...

Sorting the CD 25s who did have numbers listed on our site, taking out the ones with tba, really, ??, too many numbers and letters, not enough numbers and letters... I find the following interesting.

Of these folks who had "clean"....and I more than likely screwed up a couple/few doing this unsupervised by adult supervision... not having my glasses on, and really board this morning... I post the following muck.

No boats are built after the 6th of the month.
The boats were finished in:

2-Feb
3-Mar
3-Apr
1-May
5-Jun
3-Jul
4-Aug
2-Sep
4-Oct
3-Nov..... None in Jan or Dec.

When sorting this very unscientific grouping of muck... in ascending order by year, month, and day... which should list them in cronological order... there are multiple hull numbers way out of sequence.... some of the same hull numbers, but built on differant days...months...

So, what this tells me is the same person who finishes out the plumbing work is more than likely the same guy who runs the fiberglass stamp gizmo that puts the serial numbers on the boats.....

Or.... I really just do not want to go wake up Sherryl and go buy furniture today.

Wow... I am looking forward to the trip out to the NW and seeing yall. Beer
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