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Byrdman



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Very Happy Smile Xmas LOL Xmas LOL
Roger Man......Ya made me spill my coffee on that one brother... and who really cares if it is an improved ramp or not...

Let's see....top speed 22mph and about 2800 miles from Stanwood, WA to Montgomery, AL would be 16 each 8 hour days in the seat....coming the short route over the mountains of course not worrying about the snow....and about 1527 gallons of diesel.... See there brother.... it is makeing one of those basically $350 round trip Southwest tickets between Seattle and Birmingham or Nashville looking like a much better deal... Come on down!!! You have your pick of 2 C-Dory's to play on.

Now that really makes me feel sweeeeeeet about the comfort and fuel milage I get with the TomCat in town with the 6.0 Power Stroke Turbo Diesel in Ol' Blue.... but no way am I up for a tow-off challenge in the ramp parking lot.... and I can't do taters in my Excursion either!!
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Mr. Fisherman



Joined: 02 Nov 2003
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State or Province: OR
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey! I think that is 4X8...
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DaveS



Joined: 01 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="SENSEI"]well, I have the ultimate 4x4 it burns about 12 gallons /hr,top speed of 22 mph, and go anywhere

If I'm not mistaken its' got AIR CONDITIONING as well, so that hot Alabama sun won't be a problem. Wink

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Otter-BelleHavenMarina



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we need to submit that pic to Jeff for the C-Dory web site cover shot!
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Byrdman



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 6:41 am    Post subject: Inserting Pictures Reply with quote

Hey Roger Man! Tell me, how do you insert a picture in the text box of a message on our site like you did with your tractor and boat pic?
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Captains Cat



Joined: 03 Nov 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Byrdman, it's fairly simple. Go to a pix on the internet, in your pix album or somewhere else that is already available, right click on it and copy the properties box with the copy command. Make sure you copy the whole thing, not the thumbnail version if there is one like in your albums, go to the big picture.

Then in your message text, click on Img box, past the properties, then click on the Img box again to close it (or click on close tags. Check with preview to make sure you did it right and you're home free...

Charlie

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Byrdman



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Charlie.... WOW... I thought I had hit the PM button not the reply... Should have had a bit more coffee.....
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Otter-BelleHavenMarina



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad you posted it Byrdman - I always wanted to know too!


Hey - it works!
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Forty Two



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flapbreaker wrote:
Speeking of fuel economy I sure hope http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=109729 this guy is on to something. I would buy it in a heartbeat. Hopefully the oil industry doesn't block it some how.


Alarms should go off when you see stuff like this: "Most internal combustion engines operate at about 35 per cent efficiency. This means that only 35 per cent of the fuel is fully burned. The rest either turns to carbon corroding the engine or goes out the exhaust pipe as greenhouse gases. The H2N-Gen increases burn efficiency to at least 97 per cent, Williams said. This saves fuel and greatly reduces emissions. "

35% to 97% efficiency by addition of a quart of water every 80 hours of engine run time?

and this: "It's a scientific fact that adding hydrogen to a combustion chamber will cause a cleaner burn." Using engine power to generate hydrogen with your battery to burn in your engine where it combines with the oxygen that would otherwise oxidize fuel is not going to improve anything.

Snake oil, I'm afraid.

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Sea Wolf



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Snake oil, I'm afraid."---fishbob

Good analysis! Wink

Put this device right in there with the turbo jet fan blade devices and water injectors for carburetors. Smile

I wonder how many people have been victums of their search for venture capital? Angry

Joe

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gljjr



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While the claims are definitly outlandish I do beleive that you could easily see a 30% increase in fuel efficiency in such a device. But not nearly a 70% increase!

An interesting note, it has been proven by a major automaker (BMW) that our current gas guzzling engines will run "as is" with a fuel injection system designed to run on Hydrogen. The biggest hurdle is being able to set up the delivery system across the world so that people can switch from Gasoline to Hydrogen. My guess is that the device above is something that basically gives you a hybrid fuel system and it uses far more water/electricity than they state on the site.

I used to use water "injection" on my old '68 Bug and increased both power and fuel mileage by about 10% when I had the adjustment correct. Only reason I stopped was due to the constant hassle of trying to get the flow just right out of the "injector" that I was using. Plus I had to manually set it each and every time I started and shut off the motor. But on long trips it worked great.

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Captains Cat



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gary said....

Quote:
fuel injection system designed to run on Hydrogen


I for one am not sure I'm ready to have a bunch of little Hindenburgs running around our highways. They are dangerous enough already. Although gasoline will butn too, won't it Smile

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Byrdman



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the weight down the road last week on my 18 Angler... One battery, about 3 gallons of fuel/oil.... a few ropes, a fender or two, no anchor....pretty much just the boat, trailer, 50hp 2 stroke motor and 9.9 hp 4 stroke motor..... and she weighed 2340#. Sweeeeeet!
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Forty Two



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gljjr wrote:
While the claims are definitly outlandish I do beleive that you could easily see a 30% increase in fuel efficiency in such a device. But not nearly a 70% increase!

An interesting note, it has been proven by a major automaker (BMW) that our current gas guzzling engines will run "as is" with a fuel injection system designed to run on Hydrogen. The biggest hurdle is being able to set up the delivery system across the world so that people can switch from Gasoline to Hydrogen. My guess is that the device above is something that basically gives you a hybrid fuel system and it uses far more water/electricity than they state on the site.

I used to use water "injection" on my old '68 Bug and increased both power and fuel mileage by about 10% when I had the adjustment correct. Only reason I stopped was due to the constant hassle of trying to get the flow just right out of the "injector" that I was using. Plus I had to manually set it each and every time I started and shut off the motor. But on long trips it worked great.


2 points:

1 - The best fuel efficiency increases I have ever heard of are in the 5 -10% range.
2 - Hydrogen is a combustible fuel just like gasoline. H plus oxygen yields water for exhaust. Hydrocarbons plus oxygen yields a bunch of carbon compounds and water for exhaust.
3 - Water injection through your carb is not the same thing at all as running on hydrogen fuel.
4- I can't count today.
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Forty Two



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I borrowed a truck scale last week and measured the tongue weight of the Barrel o Monkeys:

1020 lbs.

Tongue weight is supposed to be 5 to 7% of the trailer weight. I am way over that.
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