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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012
Posts: 3567
City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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| Foggy wrote: | ...Cutting back, a little, for safety and maybe fuel savings, twin 300s on your 22 footer would be a sight to behold not to mention a thrill when you put the hammers down! Twin engines would also make for easier docking.....
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If you put twins 200hp and above you could get the fancy new joystick system that lets you maneuver the boat in any direction you want just by pushing and/or twisting the joystick. |
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westward
Joined: 18 Feb 2005
Posts: 718
City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1985
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: TBD
Photos: Steady Eddy
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Twin 300's are what I had in mind. Should compensate nicely for my extra 2 coolers of beer.  |
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South of Heaven
Joined: 15 Aug 2015
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City/Region: Sharon
State or Province: MA
Photos: Blue Water
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| westward wrote: | | Twin 300's are what I had in mind. Should compensate nicely for my extra 2 coolers of beer. |
ONLY 2 extra coolers of beer?? Meh !
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2007 C Dory 25' Cruiser (200 hp Suzuki, sold 7/17)
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Foggy
Joined: 01 Aug 2013
Posts: 1579
City/Region: Traverse City; Northern Lake Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2014
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Boatless in Boating Paradise
Photos: W B Nod
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Now let's not get ridiculous...
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South of Heaven
Joined: 15 Aug 2015
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City/Region: Sharon
State or Province: MA
Photos: Blue Water
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2016 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Foggy wrote: | Now let's not get ridiculous...
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Well...wine is healthy. Just like how eating french fries w/ketchup is similar to baked potatoes w/tomatoes! haaahaaaa |
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potter water
Joined: 12 Apr 2011
Posts: 1076
City/Region: Logan
State or Province: UT
C-Dory Year: 1997
C-Dory Model: R-21 Tug
Vessel Name: Poopsy
Photos: Still C-razy
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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I think I read all of these posts pretty carefully, but I didn't see the most important point made. The transoms on the 22 are well built, but there is a cantilever force put on the transom that is very high when you go WOT to get on plane. I'm pretty sure that the engine weight was only one of the engineering parameters used by the hull designers. I'm also very sure that the torque effect on the transom as the engine is powered up is an even bigger consideration. The 135 could easily be at the edge of the engineering margin. They state some HP value that is less than the design limit for a few reasons:
1. Variations in build quality and materials year to year or even day to day.
2. Variations in dealer installation quality of work for engines and systems.
3. Long term wear and tear on the transom over many years.
4. Static issues, (weight), are the least consideration, it is the dynamic issues of vibration, torque, boat stability at speeds and so on that are the bigger drivers of the design and derating formulas.
So, the rated limit is not something to treat lightly. That limit comes from structural modeling and sound marine derating practices that have been proven year after year.
Cut the deal without the 135 or make sure you can get it off of there and put a nice 90 to 100 hp on instead for the right price.
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journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005
Posts: 3598
City/Region: Valley Centre
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: journey on
Photos: Journey On
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I notice there's a lot of negative response regarding the weight of the Honda. Also, there seems to be a number of owners who have 115 HP Hondas on their boat. The 90 Honda is the "other" Honda. The 90 is 360 lbs and the 115/135/150 is 480 lbs so the difference is 120 lbs.
So lets hear from one of those 115 owners. Does the extra weight compromise the C-Dory 22 in the areas of handling and durability?
I suspect the C-Dory in question is long gone and we're arguing just for it's own sake.
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Sunbeam
Joined: 23 Feb 2012
Posts: 3990
City/Region: Out 'n' About
State or Province: Other
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Photos: Sunbeam
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| Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2016 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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| journey on wrote: | | Also, there seems to be a number of owners who have 115 HP Hondas on their boat. |
I don't know of any 22's with a Honda 115 on the transom. There may be one (or some) but I haven't seen or heard of one. (The Honda 115 is an entirely different beast than a 115 from the other principal engine makers, which are around 100# lighter and have blocks around half the size.)
I have been on a Marinaut 21 with a Honda 115. Great engine. But the Marinaut 21, being a newer design, has much more reserve buoyancy in the transom than our 22 Cruisers (because by the time they sat down to design the Marinaut, it was a given that folks would be running big/heavy four strokes, larger fuel tanks, larger house banks, etc - not the custom in 1987 and before). |
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