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416rigby
Joined: 31 Mar 2004 Posts: 1208 City/Region: Port Angeles
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2001
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Foggy Dew
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Bill, you should also post this on the "Galley" forum so when folks are looking for a recipie...
Couple friends I know made smokers from old refridgerators...you do it yourselfers may be able to build a big one for just a few bucks...lots of room for lots of racks in one of those bad boys.
Rick _________________ "Life's too short to hunt with an ugly gun"
At last...home for good in the Great Northwest!
2001 22 Cruiser "Foggy Dew" 2006-2013 |
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8556 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, Tom - nice try though, we both think you are a funny guy! Not going to call in sick, that is the first step to unemployment! The pro-release I will hang onto for a while until I figure out what I want to do with it - my guess is, though, that it may be available. I guess you and Peter can bid it up!
starcrafttom wrote: | pat do you want to go fishing in the morning?? monday?? call in sick, its the first step in the process of becoming a fisherman. just bring the pro-release with you....  |
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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8556 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
Photos: Daydream and Crabby Lou
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Smokers - I have a LIttle Chief at Birch Bay, fool proof for sure. It has been in use smoking beef snack sausage, (Costco) salmon, clams, oysters, cheese, etc., for many years. Here at Fall City I have a Sausage Maker 20 lb insulated smoker - this is a gem, have had it for years, did not ever use it until earlier this week when I smoked up the Mackinaw trout, which it did perfectly. The temperature control is the best part of this unit. A separate smoke generator would be nice (and is available) but beyond my present requirements...Now I mainly need fish to smoke! |
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starcrafttom
Joined: 07 Nov 2003 Posts: 7935 City/Region: marysville
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1984
C-Dory Model: 27 Cruiser
Vessel Name: to be decided later
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Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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I am trying the dry brine this time. I have tried the wet before and have had mixed results that are all my fault, not the brines. last year the dog figured how to open the smoker while I was away and eat 6 salmon worth of smoked fish. Susan had to hide the dog for a week in puppy protection program.
I do have a question, While in the fridge the salmon pan is filling with juice. Do I drain that off ??? I had not soaked the chips before and that may have been one of the reasons for my mixed results. I will give the water soak a try tomorrow after 12 hours of brine. _________________ Thomas J Elliott
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Da Nag
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 2847 City/Region: Port Angeles
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1995
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruise Ship
Vessel Name: Wilbur
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: |
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starcrafttom wrote: | I do have a question, While in the fridge the salmon pan is filling with juice. Do I drain that off ??? |
I don't, and I don't think doing so is typical. As mentioned earlier, some folks shuffle the fish around once the goo starts accumulating, but I can't tell the difference in the final product between fish sitting at the bottom, and those on top.
Also, if you want the fish to be a little firmer, you can extend the brine time. I actually like the texture better when it sits for 24 hours, but I don't usually have the time. Leaving it in for that long also increases the saltiness, but not by as much as you may think. Still, I'd like to try a 24 hour soak with 25-30% less salt some time.
starcrafttom wrote: | I had not soaked the chips before and that may have been one of the reasons for my mixed results. I will give the water soak a try tomorrow after 12 hours of brine. |
I think you'll notice quite a difference.
First, the smoke will be far mellower, as it smolders for quite a while instead of going up in a relatively short "poof". When wet, the smoke is thin and whispy - when chips get dry, it becomes thick and harsh. When I see the smoke starting to get real heavy, I drop some more wet ones into the mix to calm things down.
Second, the added moisture keeps the temps down a bit, and the humidity up. _________________
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gljjr
Joined: 27 Jan 2005 Posts: 908 City/Region: Fall City
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1982
C-Dory Model: 27 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Migratory Dory
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:33 am Post subject: |
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Tom,
I use the Dry brine as Bill does. However I never measure it.
What I do is to lay out the fish skin side down in the glass caserole (I like a deep one for this but shallow also works).
Once I have the whole bottom of the dish covered with fish I heavily cover it with the Non-Iodized Salt. Then I fully cover the salt with a layer of Brown Sugar. I make sure the salt isn't visible through the Sugar.
Then I add another layer of fish and do it again until I get to the top of the pan.
Cover it with Saran Wrap (DON'T USE FOIL) and place it in the fridge until the next day.
In the morning I will pull the fish out of the fridge and lightly rinse the fish and place it on the racks for the smoker.
Then I'll put it in the smoker using ALDER chips that have soaked overnight in a bucket of water.
Bring the smoker up to about 150-170 degrees and keep replacing the chips for the first 4 hours or so. After that I just run heat until the fish is the right firmness.
After that I'm lucky to get any as everyone wants some!
I'm going to have to try adding garlic and spices, but quite frankly I like it plain  _________________ Gary Johnson
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Jazzmanic
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 2232 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Tom, just remember, I put in my dibs FIRST!
Pat wrote: | just bring the pro-release with you....
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Jazzmanic
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 2232 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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BTW, it's not true that Pink are not good eating. They say if you take care of them correctly, Pinks can be as firm and flavorful as the Coho and Chinook.
Tom and I took care of the fish we caught right away, bleeding and icing them in our KatchKooler bags. When I got back to the dock, I filleted them, put them in a freezer bag, then kept them on ice. This was Saturday afternoon. I didn't get home until Sunday evening. I kept the fish on ice the whole time. Since we don't have a smoker, we baked two fillet's with Caryn's tried and true salmon recipie. It was delicious! Just as good eating as any other salmon, firm, flakey and flavorful. _________________ Peter & Caryn
C-Dancer - 2005 22' Cruiser 2005-2017
Island Time - 2018 Ranger Tug 23 2017-2022
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