Power Options 25' CD

[Captains Cat]

Big difference on an aircraft Dusty. I've heard that, even when they both quit, you've always got enough time to get to the scene of the crash!

Charlie

[Butch]

Thanks for all the input on powering up a new boat. Its a lot to digest and another thing not to second guess your decision. But I figure I am up to it . Tanks ya all! Butch

[Sea Angel]

Hi Gang;
This is my first ever thread input here.
This pass week I had the chance to 'sea trial' the CD22 & CD25 at Cutter Marine in MD. The CD22 had a HONDA 90 and the CD25 a HONDA 135. Both hulls had trim tabs , had 3 adults and minimum loading of 'stuff'. Each seemed to ride abt 14 to 17kts at abt 3400 rpm and seemed to have the least loading on the motor. The rep there sure wanted to push the singles!
I think the HONDA 150 would have been a better fit since the weight factor is equal to the 135.

I was very impressed with the transmission and injection system of the '135. The test I did was an enhanced maneuver to simulated a 'man-overboard'. The throttle control reminded me of the old
Morse Controls. If only the '90 had that transmission !! And controls!!

The quietness of both are soooo much better than the Merc 135 I have on my 18' SeaRay. The transmission action and starting characteristics are the same as the Merc.

I'm weighing the arguements of single verses twins also. The Kicker approach is a very valid point for the the safety point of 'returning to port'.
The economy of the single is a 'no-brainer' to me with weight and consumption of todays expensive gas. The extra weight at the stern as it affects trim and counterpoise effect of extra weight in the anchor locker
has some points as well.

The question here in the Lower Chesapeake Bay is both reliability and manueverability. For the pass 15 years I have been active in the USCGAUX and have had to tow many 'newbies' and 'oldies' back in. The currents and winds can be a real challenge when passing under some of our bridge structures. I should note that I was a crew or coxswain on a 37' Tug with twins. Here all we did was center the helm and use the engine to steer and manuever... very effective with a 45' sailboat or cruiser along side.

Has any talk been abt closing off the transom and adding an Armstrong type extension to move the engines further aft by abt 1ft.? By the way, I was comparing this with the Rosborough RF246 and here is where all parts fell in place to us.

So you see I have not yet resolved which way to go before I commit the check.... I have permission from my wife. Can't get any better than that, except being with her another 40+ years would be great!

Did any of this make any sense? I will try harder next time not to write a book.....

[Sawdust]

Art,

Just an old Dusty view - the 135 would certainly be my choice for the 25. The 135 and 150 have similar torque and hp curves up to about 4500 rpm, and unless you water ski or some other activity that requires 4500+ why spend the extra loot.

As for twin vs single - I don't dare touch that one. My personal preference has been single and kicker, but it would be easy to change my mind after seeing the new Da Nag and super-sized Sea Shift.

Twin engines certainly have the edge for maneuvering, but with the vectored thrust of the outboard, both the 22 and 25 are very maneuverable with a single engine.

"Rudder amidship and steer with throttles" was step one in teaching new skippers. There are many steps beyond that, and a competent skipper uses all of the tools. Twin outboards (or outdrives) respond beautifully to a combination of throttle and rudder.

My new CD Orca has the engine mounted on an Armstrong extension -- full report when she gets wet.

Dusty

[Sea Angel]

Hi Dusty;
Congratulations on the ORCA. You are so right abt a skipper using all the other tools with regards to controlling one's vessel, from outside forces to helm to thrust.

I looked at the ORCA, but the family comptroller won't go that far. No complaint, though.

I hope to have the decission done by the end of August, at latest; given the variables I'm working with.

I guess I am a product of an old school of thought.. If the vessel is rated for 100HP, go for 100HP. I would think the dealer would like this on their spreadsheets.

Maybe I should reconsider the single so I can add some more toys, such as RADAR, etc..

Are there any CD25s in the Lower Ches. Bay area of VA that you know of? I did not notice any in the rolls here..

Thanks agn for your remarks and blessings to you and your family...and all you other C-Brats [love that name!].

[Sea Angel]

DUSTY et All..

I get dummy award... I resorted the membership list and found the names of other C-Brats in VA, etc.. So much ignorance/ so much to learn.. Art

[Captains Cat]

Hey Art, PLAN B (2002 CD25 with twin Honda 75s) will be at my pier on Cod Creek on the 19/20th of June for our CD gathering. We're at the mouth of the Potomac at the Bay on the VA side on Northern Neck.

http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=626

There'll also be 5 CD 22's there with all Honda power from 2 45's to a single 90. We'd be glad to have you stop by. Check out the thread for details and let me know if you need directions.

Charlie

[D5800877351]

well, the weird thing is the honda's weight config.
the 115 is heavier than the 150...

[Jammin]

We've been very happy with the Honda 130 and 9.9 kicker Les installed on Jammin. It seems to me that Jammin runs best at about 5kts with the kicker or 130. The kicker is primarily a get home engine as it is noisier than the 130. It seems to be powerful enough.

I would not have this boat without an autopilot. Slow and quiet with the autopilot is often the way we like spending a day cruising.

Dennis