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dotnmarty
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 4196 City/Region: Sammamish
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: LIZZIE II
Photos: Lizzie
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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There are many and varied stories about Fiddlers green., some ancient and some strikingly contemporary. Truth be told the word Fiddler in this context probably did not refer to a fiddle but rather to a fid, the spike sailors use for splicing line. Here's my favorite story and song. (thanks again, Wilkepedia)
Fiddler's Green is the happy land imagined by sailors where there is perpetual mirth, a fiddle that never stops playing and dancers who never tire.
History
Fiddler's Green features in an old English legend, to the effect that a sailor can find the paradisiacal village by walking inland with an oar over his shoulder until he finds a place where people ask him what he's carrying. This legend may have some of its origin in Tiresias' prophecy in Homer's Odyssey, in which he tells Odysseus that the only way to appease the sea god Poseidon and find happiness is to take an oar and walk until he finds a land where he is asked what he is carrying, and there make his sacrifice.
It is also the subject of numerous songs, including this about a fisherman who is dying at the dockside
As I walked by the dockside one evening so rare
To view the saltwater and taste the salt air
I spied an old fisherman singing this song
Oh take me away, boys, my time is not long-
"Wrap me up in my oil skin and blanket,
No more 'round the docks I'll be seen,
Just tell me old shipmates,
I'm takin a trip, mates,
and I'll see you some day in Fiddler's Green"
It has been said that only crew, no officers, can go to Fiddler's green! _________________ MartyP
"...we're all in the same boat..." |
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fiddlersgreen6
Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 217 City/Region: Riverside, Ca. & Melbourne Beach, Fl.
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 1991
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Don Quixote
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:39 am Post subject: |
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VERY INTERESTING!----Thanks-----Rich |
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oldgrowth
Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 2196 City/Region: Rochester
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Voyager
Photos: C-Voyager
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:30 am Post subject: |
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dotnmarty wrote: | Dave-that's a neat set up. Do you have bilge pump behind the middle tank? Where are your batteries? Thanks for the info and pictures. |
Bilge pump is behind the middle (3-gallon) tank. Both batteries are under the port seat. _________________ Dave
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Steve Grover
Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 330 City/Region: Lake Tahoe
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 19 Angler
Vessel Name: Tee Ten
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Dave.... I have had a 16' for several months. Great modifications you have made. I really learned alot viewing your pics. I will add a shelf, move my battery to port under the seat and think about anchor modification. How well does that plate on your engine work for you? I run a 50 Yamaha and am wondering about a plate.
Thanks for the pics. |
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dotnmarty
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 4196 City/Region: Sammamish
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: LIZZIE II
Photos: Lizzie
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:02 pm Post subject: less is more |
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I was wondering if somehow we could have a topic or thread devoted soley to the 16 footer. So many of our questions and issues seem to be size-related (never mind with the wise cracks), it would be nice to have our own little home. Also, sometimes we might make the big guys feel bad with our ease of handling, and our great mileage and the fact that we can store our boats in the spare bedroom. On the otherhand they may not be interested in our problems, like what size oar do you carry for emergency. |
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Steve Grover
Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 330 City/Region: Lake Tahoe
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 19 Angler
Vessel Name: Tee Ten
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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Dave...I Think your right about that too! How does that hydro plate work for trim with your Honda 50 hp? |
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oldgrowth
Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 2196 City/Region: Rochester
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Voyager
Photos: C-Voyager
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Steve Grover wrote: | Dave.... I have had a 16' for several months. Great modifications you have made. I really learned alot viewing your pics. I will add a shelf, move my battery to port under the seat and think about anchor modification. How well does that plate on your engine work for you? I run a 50 Yamaha and am wondering about a plate.
Thanks for the pics. | .
It makes a big difference. It is by far the best modification/addition I have made to the boat. Improved the handling and ride of the boat by more than 100%
_________________
Dave
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Steve-
The addition of a hydrofoil helps the boat get up on plane faster*, plane at a lower speed**, and behave like a longer boat,thus *** giving a smoother ride.
* "kite effect" of water pushing on hydrofoil plate at an angle
**more surface planing area
*** effectively lengthens boat by extending planing area aft
Joe. _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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dotnmarty
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 4196 City/Region: Sammamish
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: LIZZIE II
Photos: Lizzie
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Steve Grover wrote: | How does that hydro plate work for trim with your Honda 50 hp? | You can pick up a pair of plastic hydrofoils at any boating supply. All you have to do is drill a couple holes on each side of the fin. Even I did it correctly! They work extremely well on the 16 footer and are quite necessary to keep the bow down on the cruiser model, which has a more rearward cabin and is relatively stern heavy. |
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Steve Grover
Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 330 City/Region: Lake Tahoe
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 19 Angler
Vessel Name: Tee Ten
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Thanks you guys.....I will order a hydrofoil plate from Cabela's this morning. Can't waite to try it out. I have thought about the flip down type for trolling but I don't seem to have a trolling speed problem. Have been catching enough fish in Lake Tahoe at 2.5-2.8 mph at 700 rpms. I don't think trolling speed needs to be less so I'll order the solid plate. |
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fiddlersgreen6
Joined: 20 Dec 2003 Posts: 217 City/Region: Riverside, Ca. & Melbourne Beach, Fl.
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 1991
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Don Quixote
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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Good idea about the seperate thread, then again how many members actually own a 16' C-Dory or a 14'? Anyone have an idea? Well, I'm out of here, I'm on my way to Va. to retrive boat and motorhome.----Rich |
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oldgrowth
Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 2196 City/Region: Rochester
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Voyager
Photos: C-Voyager
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:47 am Post subject: |
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fiddlersgreen6 wrote: | Good idea about the seperate thread, then again how many members actually own a 16' C-Dory or a 14'? Anyone have an idea? Well, I'm out of here, I'm on my way to Va. to retrive boat and motorhome.----Rich |
On the Brat Map there are 75 listed, however I would guess some owners of the 16 have not entered their zip code in their profile and some do not list the size of their boat, so there could be anywhere from 80 to 100 members with 16 foot boats.
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Jazzmanic
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 2231 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:01 am Post subject: |
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Steve, you might want to look at Permatrims. I've had two of them and love 'em. I think Dave copied the Permatrim design and manufactured his own aluminum hydrofoil. Correct me if I'm wrong Dave.
Peter |
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oldgrowth
Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 2196 City/Region: Rochester
State or Province: WA
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C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:13 am Post subject: |
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Peter – you are right about my hydrofoil. It is a copy of the Permatrim Hydrofoil. I did a bit of research and read many post from members before deciding on which to get. It seemed to be a consensus by most members that the Permatrim was best. It looked simple enough in design so I decided to make my own. As I said before, I believe it is the single best add-on/modification I could make to my boat. The thumbnail below will take you to the dimensions of the hydrofoil in my photo album, for a 40 to 50hp Honda engine. The only difference for other 40 to 50 HP engines would be the cut out in the middle.
I would be happy to help anyone interested in making one.
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Steve Grover
Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 330 City/Region: Lake Tahoe
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 19 Angler
Vessel Name: Tee Ten
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:57 am Post subject: |
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Thanks again...I am on the search for a Permatrim Hydrofoil. I didn't order one yesterday. Gizmo thinks it to be a great add on. We are excited!
Have any of you guys up there in the Pacific Northwest ever covered the intercoastal out of Ketchan northwest towards Sitka?
Thanks |
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