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Sneaks



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, here's a "new C-Dory boater" question:

There's a mystery fitting directly below the 12 volt accessory socket on the dash of my 2005 CD-22. It has outside threads and is secured by a stainless screw in the center. What in the world is it for?

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Mr. Fisherman



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TyBoo wrote:
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By the way, I would tow with the motor down or invest in a transom saver.


If you read the thread titled Securing Boat On Trailer and see how the boats tend to move around, you will understand why you are better off without a transom saver. Sheesh - I always wish Les would get back on here, but I really hope he doesn't see the the above quote. He goes really haywire over that one.


Really? It seems to me that the flexing from the weight being further from the fulcrum would be amplified by increasing the lever arm i.e in the raised position. Shortening the lever arm would physically reduce the force as the rotational inertia is null or nominal. I would think that having the motor in the lowered position would be favorable over the use of a transom saver for reasons mentioned about the boat possibly sliding around. In any case, I have a roller trailer and don't have to worry about the motor hitting the ground. If you have a bunk trailer your mileage may vary.

I am sure a super nerd will come along and set me straight. Don't expect too much from me right now. I just got off a 12 hour night shift adn need to go to bed.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sneaks wrote:
OK, here's a "new C-Dory boater" question:

There's a mystery fitting directly below the 12 volt accessory socket on the dash of my 2005 CD-22. It has outside threads and is secured by a stainless screw in the center. What in the world is it for?

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Don


That threaded fitting is for the cap that is used to seal the socket connection to your Anchor light. The cap stores there when the light mast is on the boat. It is a handy place to store it so it doesn't get lost and offers a friendly reminder that you don't have the mast up when the cap is present.

I hope this helps...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and when that cap that goes on that holder does get lost, a cap off of a disposable propane bottle fits perfectly.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

........of all things! I never could figure it out either. I took it off when I was patching gel coat holes this spring and plastered over the screw hole. Hmmm, I wonder what I did with it?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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flexing from the weight being further from the fulcrum would be amplified by increasing the lever arm i.e in the raised position. Shortening the lever arm would physically reduce the force as the rotational inertia is null or nominal.


If I tried using those words, DoD would beat the crap out of me!

Actually, having the motor tilted full up and on the storage lever provides the least forces other than sheer weight to the transom. And with it up, the weight is focused straight down rather than off center. Look at it this way: With the motor down, the weight of it is trying to force it to fall off the back, and it is held by only the four bolts, with only the top two holding most of the load. With it tilted up having most of the powerhead weight ahead of the transom and all the lower unit weight behind the transom, the weight is trying to force the motor to fall through the bottom of the boat. The same bolts and material are holding the weight, but they are now in sheer condition rather than tensile, and the weight is divided between them all, as well as being distributed over a lot more fiberglass. It might appear that you would get more "rocking" forces with the motor up, but if you were to relieve the pressure in the hydraulic circuit you would find that the motor is pretty well balanced. I think they build 'em that way. Or look at it like this: With the motor down, all of the weight is behind the fulcrum; with it up, the weight is split between the two sides of it. But as tough as the CD transoms are, it doesn't matter much to it how you have the motor, so if you have room to leave it down while towing and prefer it, that's the way you should do it.

My comment, however, was directed toward the use of a transom saver device. Bad idea unless the trailer supporting one end of it does not move or flex relative to the transom which is ultimately holding the other end. Almost impossible with a CD22, no matter how you string it up or tie it down.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moose, I suppose if you loose the holder, a disposable propane bottle would work Smile

Motors up or down? what Mike said, unless you have a dodge then you may want the motors down and running for that added propulsion assist
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr. Fisherman wrote:

That threaded fitting is for the cap that is used to seal the socket connection to your Anchor light. The cap stores there when the light mast is on the boat. It is a handy place to store it so it doesn't get lost and offers a friendly reminder that you don't have the mast up when the cap is present.

I hope this helps...


Thank you, indeed it does. I wouldn't have figured it out alone and I bet Moose and I ain't the only ones that learned something on that answer either!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

B~C wrote:

Motors up or down?


Sounds to me like a good title for another poll. As for me "motors up". (Another good reason for motors up, is that you are less likely to "smack" your lower units on a steep driveway).

P.S. For you Ford and Chevy folks, if your motors are up, you'll get less wind resistance and you "just might" be able to travel at speeds greater than 15 mph. Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My anchor does not have a swivel between it and the chain. Do I need one and where do I get it?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sheeesh, you got the boat and you're still full of questions Smile West marine in Delta park or Boaters World in Jantzen beach can really put a warp in you fun coupons
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FB - something similar to this deal will work great. Any marine store will fix you with prices ranging from under 10 bucks to over a hundred. I am glad to hear you don't have one. It should definitely solve your chain binding problem. The links cannot lay in the gypsy if they have a twist.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it easiest to look through the bottom part of my glasses when trying to identify something.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I gots' a label on my holder also, however, I don't see on in the picture Don posted....ya know the true purpose of that thing is to store that phillips screw in the center of it.

How long before the newbie window opening question?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How long before the newbie window opening question?


Gotta wait until he gets mad or takes his wife for a boat ride. Hopefully, they don't both happen at the same time. (Uh oh, C-Lou is gonna beat me up now!)
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