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thataway
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There are two types of hatches on the cockpit of the post 2002 C Dory 25's. I have been referring to what was on my 2003. It was a plastic hatch, similar to what is on the lazarette of the 22. I was not able to make that leak proof with new seals etc. I don't have a photo of the hatch, but do have a photo of the cutout when we put in the new Nadicore deck.
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If you have the same as the 2008, then there are several other options, with the new gaskets and strong back. The aluminum hatches can be painted, or sprayed with bed liner to make them cooler under foot. I read today that a patron was suing a YC in So. Calif because he burned his bare feet on an aluminum ramp to the dock! It got up to 120 degrees in the summer heat. Hot, but I wonder how much damage it might cause. Even raw teak can be hot in the summer sun...
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Newsky
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I really appreciate the insight and experience shared. I live in Alaska so not so concerned about burning feet on aluminum hatches if you follow. My wife would find that concern funny.  Appreciate the comment about replacing the seals....., have considered that and may do that depending upon how fast I get the new hatches. This is the one area, though, as you all know where I hope to keep things completely dry. I'm a relatively new owner and have been following some of the glitchy issues of this boat, but I have to tell you that this site and everyone's combined experience makes new boat ownership so much more enjoyable. |
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Matt Gurnsey
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| Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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On the topic of the wet bilge 25's- has anyone added ventilation to the boat's lazarette and has that reduiced the mold issues?
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Ray
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| Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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I am doing exactly that, Matt, as part of an entirely too-long list of winter projects. I am putting a mini solar vent (Nicro 3" solar only) at the aft-most corner of the boat, port side, just under the rail.
We'll see if it helps anything...... |
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thataway
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| Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Matt, I didn't have any mold issues--but there was no fiberglass bulkhead (as you can see in the above photo) between the cockpit in the earlier 25's where there was plenty of ventilation. with only a sunbrella cover. |
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beermanPDX
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| Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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One of the best (and cheapest) ideas I got from this site came from Wild Blue (thanks!):
I leave the hatches like this whenever I leave the boat now. It has greatly reduced the amount of mold that grows back.
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bridma
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| Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 6:09 pm Post subject: leaky cockpit hatches rehash - please |
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For those of you who still have the leaky lazarette hatches (like I do), and have not swapped them out yet. Smear copious amounts of vaseline on the rubber seal, and the underside and topside of the handle.
Does it keep water out ? The answer is no. But it does reduce the amount of moisture that gets through.
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bridma
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| Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:41 pm Post subject: leaky cockpit hatches - rehash please |
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I have fixed my two leaky hatches for less than $15. See in my album under Mods.
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Ray
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| Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: leaky cockpit hatches - rehash please |
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| bridma wrote: | | I have fixed my two leaky hatches for less than $15. See in my album under Mods. |
Cost for materials for FINAL VERSION is $15.
It would have been a lot more money than that to make the 8-10 versions it would have taken me to get it right! 
NICE! |
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thataway
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| Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Although the fabric covers is a good way to help the leaking problems for the 22 lazarette hatches on the 22's, I don't believe that it will solve the problem of the leaking cockpit deck hatches on the 25, which is the subject of this thread... |
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bridma
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| Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 9:27 pm Post subject: leaky cockpit hatches - rehash please |
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| thataway wrote: | | Although the fabric covers is a good way to help the leaking problems for the 22 lazarette hatches on the 22's, I don't believe that it will solve the problem of the leaking cockpit deck hatches on the 25, which is the subject of this thread... |
Ooops, silly me for posting in the wrong thread 
Not worth moving it over now to a different thread, so I'll just leave it here.
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helm
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| Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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We have replaced the gaskets and added the trusses and those cockpit hatches still leak.
If enough people were interested I bet we could get a custom hatch made that would fit the existing cut out. Anchor Hatches says they do custom hatches and I am sure there are other sources.
For now I just gave up and replaced the bilge pump with a Whale bilge IC pump, http://www.whalepumps.com/marine/product.aspx?Category_ID=10007&Product_ID=10003&FriendlyID=Bilge-IC we took the feet off the pickup, sealed all the old screw holes with marinetex and epoxied the pick up down. It will remove all but a trace of water from the bilge
Any body interested in looking into a custom hatch let me know and I will get some prices
Best
Eric
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breausaw
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| Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 1:11 am Post subject: |
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| Newsky wrote: | | I really appreciate the insight and experience shared. I live in Alaska so not so concerned about burning feet on aluminum hatches if you follow. My wife would find that concern funny. Appreciate the comment about replacing the seals....., have considered that and may do that depending upon how fast I get the new hatches. This is the one area, though, as you all know where I hope to keep things completely dry. I'm a relatively new owner and have been following some of the glitchy issues of this boat, but I have to tell you that this site and everyone's combined experience makes new boat ownership so much more enjoyable. |
Send me a PM or Email and I’ll give you my address and phone number if you’d like to come by the house and look at what I did to waterproof my Laz hatches, I live in Mid Town Anchorage.
The modification is not perfect, I don’t think they make a hinged floor hatch that’s going to be absolutely water tight, especially when you accesses them on a regular basses. Stuff gets between the hatch cover and seals and when you open the hatch this stuff compromises the integrity of the seals.
You need to eliminate any space for stuff to accumulate around the catch cover and seals, that’s essentially what it did. Also, like others have pointed out you’ll need to attach a stiffener of some kind to the underside of the hatch; I used aluminum angle attached with flathead machine screws sealed with 5200.
In a nutshell I filled all the space with silicon than used a release agent on the hatch cover, then closed the hatch and let the silicon cure.
The seals are hollow so you’ll need to blow them out with air to dry the interior and clean everything silicon contacts with acetone; this doesn’t mean you fill the seals with silicon.
Additionally, silicon plumber’s grease adds additional sealing ability when applied around the hatch seal.
All the snaps, railings, screw heads etc. on or around the cockpit have the potential to leak also.
Grated a perfectly dry lazarette is desirable but most likely an inaccessible reality.
You’re more than welcome to come by, I have the whole boat under cover with access and lots of head room, check out the man cave in my album.
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