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Roy & Dixie
Joined: 29 Jan 2013
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| Roy & Dixie wrote: | I would be most grateful if you could report back on your findings vis-a-vis this part on the F80 for future reference.
The part number for a new R/R for my Yahama F80TLRX is 67F81960-12-00. It is $231.45 online from Yahama parts and $240 from either of two dealers I called. That is double what I expected it to be. A contact that I found said he had a used R/R for my engine, replaced due to some insurance deal. That part number ended in 00-00, not 12-00, and lists new at @ $115. The contact and I concude that the 12-00 is the "improved" version. Better(?) at twice the price. He is researching this for me and I plan to look further into it online. Any dealer will only find the $240 unit so I will be searching online and will post my final results. |
Every search I did for the 00-00 ending number showed a new number of 12-00. So we can expect to pay about $240 for a new replacement R/R on a Yahama using the above part. I am considering the used part my contact is checking on, if it is in the $30 price range. Hope to hear back tomorrow. |
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Robert H. Wilkinson
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Just a tip for using dialectric grease. The connection(mating surfaces) should be made and tightened(metal to metal) before any dialectric compound or protectant spray is applied.
Dialectric introduced between the mating surfaces of a connection increases resistance and will cause problems including overheating.
Regards, Rob
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Chris
Joined: 16 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Sunbeam...your recollection is correct...the replacement rectifier is twice as big. My sense is that when the system called for heavy current...when the batteries were way down...the rectifier could not handle the heat generated...it had a large burned spot in the potting on the back side. The replacement is much bigger...at the very least the heat sink is much bigger... don't know about the internals...but the part was superseded by a new number. I won't have a chance to get to it till next week...but I will dig out the part numbers and maybe get some pics of the old and new. Cost me $236...but some of that was to get it from Los Angeles out to Craig, Alaska.
I think that if you never put heavy charging demand on the system you might be OK...but a preemptive change out would probably be a good idea
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Sunbeam
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2013 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Chris wrote: | | Sunbeam...your recollection is correct...the replacement rectifier is twice as big.... I will dig out the part numbers and maybe get some pics of the old and new. |
Thanks for the confirmation, Chris. The part number info/pics would be great if you get a chance  I will consider installing the new version and saving the existing (currently working) one for a spare. Not sure if your engine and the F80 would take the same part, but I figured it very well may. I wouldn't be surprised if the F80 were very similar to your F75 (mine is a 2002 F80; I think Roy's is a 1999 F80). It would be interesting to know whether it was just a reality check on the horsepower number and/or what was changed (in the ones before they went to fuel injection)
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journey on
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Try these people: Boat Net Yamaha Parts. I use them for my Honda parts and have always got the right part and good service. Call if you can't find the part in their parts list.
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Roy & Dixie
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Sunbeam...your recollection is correct...the replacement rectifier is twice as big.
Due to the fact that the seller has offered to cover 1/2 the cost of the new R/R, I plan to get the newer version rather consider the used one.
Was there a fit problem with the larger deminsions of your replacement unit? I assume the heat sink attaches to the original mount with the same 2 small bolts. Is the new unit taller or wider? |
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Sunbeam
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Roy & Dixie wrote: | [
Was there a fit problem with the larger deminsions of your replacement unit? I assume the heat sink attaches to the original mount with the same 2 small bolts. Is the new unit taller or wider? |
In case Chris doesn't get back right away (I'm not sure if he hounds the forum like some of us do  ).... while I don't know for sure, he and I did talk about this at Powell (we were discussing our similar engines), and I said hmm, replacing it prophylactically might be a good idea (saving the working original for a spare), and he concurred and nothing was mentioned about modifications being needed to make it fit. In fact I think he may even have replaced his on a dock in Alaska (or similar situation). It seems like something he would have mentioned if it were necessary (of course he has an F75 also).
I realize this is only "half info," but just mention it in case you were eager to get it ordered and it might help. Thanks for keeping the thread updated - great to have more F80 (F75) info here.
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Dora~Jean
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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I have twin F80's. Back 3 yrs ago or so the rectifier assy blew out on one engine at a VERY wrong time -- middle of a 20 mi crossing, 9pm at night, 3-4ft waves, 15 knots wind, family on board. My second engine got us back very well with radar and all instruments working fine.
The replacement rectifier (yes about $240) is much beefier, fits in same location, no problem.
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Sunbeam
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Dora~Jean wrote: | | I have twin F80's. |
As long as we are on the topic, let me just say "thank you!" for the helpful material in your albums. I really appreciated your photo-tutorial when I put the Permatrim on my F80 Also, before I bought my boat, I searched for F80 info here and found some of your posts with comments on your engines. Again, very useful, so thanks!
One of the new/beefy rectifiers is looking more and more attractive - and with the advantage of having my current one as a working spare (if I don't wait for it to fail).
Sunbeam
PS: Just curious: Are your F80's 2002 models (like mine)? I'm guessing yes as I think it became the F75 in 2003 - or did they perhaps sell both for a time (?) |
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Roy & Dixie
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| Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2013 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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The replacement rectifier (yes about $240) is much beefier, fits in same location, no problem.
Thank you for this info. After everything else I would hate to have had a R/R enroute that would not fit where it is intended to go. |
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