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do dawdle



Joined: 25 Aug 2012
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City/Region: mid-Columbia
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C-Dory Year: 1985
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jerry97230 wrote:
You might think about a small solar panel on the roof.
It probably would not handle the entire load, but would slow the discharge down.
Depending on the size of the panel, it could handle all of the load.

Jerry


No offense but I think a wind generator would be more appealing on my '85 C-Dory. Around here they're taking on their own "classic" look, gleaming white and all....
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why a 40hp repower and not a 50? I have had both motors on 16 footers and have no great preference either way. I do think the 50 achieves and maintains a comfortable, for us, speed (about 12-15mph) somewhat easier and at a lower rpm than the 40. Also, if reselling, a knowlegeable buyer might be more accepting of the 50, at least that happened to me when my 16 footer with a 40 was parked next to a similar 16 with a 50. In my anecdotal experience the 40 is an appropriate and adequate engine for a 16, but, the 50 does have some, perhaps minor, advantages.
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do dawdle



Joined: 25 Aug 2012
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dotnmarty wrote:
Why a 40hp repower and not a 50? I have had both motors on 16 footers and have no great preference either way. I do think the 50 achieves and maintains a comfortable, for us, speed (about 12-15mph) somewhat easier and at a lower rpm than the 40. Also, if reselling, a knowlegeable buyer might be more accepting of the 50, at least that happened to me when my 16 footer with a 40 was parked next to a similar 16 with a 50. In my anecdotal experience the 40 is an appropriate and adequate engine for a 16, but, the 50 does have some, perhaps minor, advantages.


The biggest factor in my choice of a 40 was the photo of a 16' Angler on the C-Dory website and the 40 was listed as the recommended engine on their spec sheet. (I understand 55 is maximum.)

Searching I found a fair number of opinions either way for various reasons. I'm thinking maybe the strongest reason to go 50 is more power when you really need more power.

Were both of your motors Honda four cycles? Were they basically the same engine only set up differently like the 2012 40 and 50 are now?
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do dawdle



Joined: 25 Aug 2012
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City/Region: mid-Columbia
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C-Dory Year: 1985
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Vessel Name: Patsy Lou
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:35 pm    Post subject: Amazing support here Reply with quote

Until I bought a C-Dory I was an infrequent guest on this site. I am simply amazed at how helpful you C-Brats are with all the questions a new owner is faced with.

I think I would have benefited by spending more time on C-Brats before I bought my boat, not that I would have looked for anything other than a C-Dory...

PS: This is not a signal to drop the discussion; if anyone has more advice about things in this topic/thread, I'm all ears.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do dawdle wrote:

Were both of your motors Honda four cycles? Were they basically the same engine only set up differently like the 2012 40 and 50 are now?


The 40 was a 2004 Honda carborated and the 50 is a 2011 Honda efi. Both were, of course, 4 cycle .
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do dawdle



Joined: 25 Aug 2012
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:27 am    Post subject: Choices made... Reply with quote

Left Patsy Lou at Sportcraft this afternoon. She will be fitted with a Honda 50 and a 5. I am certain the 5 will troll best in my situation, with no need for trolling plates; after hearing from you and others, the 50 is the one for me. (2012 50 and 40 are equal in weight)

Also I'm getting double batteries, with the starting battery aft and deep cycle forward. All gadgets are to run off of deep cycle. This was the setup they recommended and it sounds similar to several here on C-Brats.

I asked them to put enough cable on the batteries so I could move them as necessary in their respective compartments (fully from port to starboard.) Again, this is based on the good advice about trimming with load from many knowledgeable C-Brats, in this topic/thread and elsewhere in the forums.

Now I'm on pins & needles like an expectant father in the waiting room. If all goes well I'll be on the road home this week with Patsy Lou and her new babies.

Many thanks to everyone for all the help. Patsy and I will be in touch...
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[quote="nuipukawai"] Do you have a hand crank on your vehicle if the battery dies?

Yes - on my 1977 FJ45 Landcruiser!! Laughing Laughing

Came as standard equipment! Never used it. If my battery was weak, I parked on a hill and bump started it! Laughing

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