Boats vs. float planes.

NewMoon · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:20 am Post subject:

We've had many times as many seaplanes near us than jetskis. But then we do 90% of our cruising in SE Alaska, BC, and the San Juans, where float planes are a primary mode of transportation. They are responsible for avoiding us while on the water, but they move so much faster that they don't have much trouble doing so, even in busy ports like Ketchikan and Juneau.

This summer in SE AK we did see the jetski folks who were working on a "reality show", pushing the limits of sanity cruising up through SE Alaska and supposedly even further north. There were some interesting stories on the radio news of trouble they had gotten into.

starcrafttom · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:47 am Post subject:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJgIsjs3_B4

instructional video on boat / plane relations.

localboy · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 5:17 pm Post subject:

Thanks Robbie for the link. It appears just as Dave posted.

I guess we'll just learn what bays etc they frequent and plan ahead accordingly. Seems somewhat hap-hazard if you ask me, especially in areas that a commercial airline like Kenmore Air serves daily. But...I guess it's just a byproduct of life up here.

Dave, the second take off was so close that his wake tipped over not only my entire coffee cup (of freshly brewed Kona coffee Evil or Very Mad

) before I could get to it Mad

but one of our drawers flew open too. Rolling Eyes

hardee · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:05 pm Post subject:

SeaWolf Joe,

I was a kid at Sidney BC when the Mars Martins came, four of them then, the only ones left in the world, and they are BIG. Really cool to see them land and take off from the water. I believe they have been privatized, moved to a freshwater base, and decreased down to 2 now as a result of a crash and fire. Definitely they get the right of way. Thanks for that really neat picture.

As to Sea Planes in general.... transiting the Princes Louisa inlet about a mile from the dock when I heard a really loud, strange sound coming from the stern, and a fast approaching blip, aft and a couple points off to port, on the radar. Too fast to get a good picture, but he passed us about a hundred feet to port and set down a couple hundred yards in front.

Seems like a radio call, an alert on 16, would be a nice addition to their landing procedure, but maybe surprise is the best tactic. Shocked

Harvey
SleepyC Moon

thataway · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject:

Tom,
Great video clip! That had to be staged, but gave me a great laugh.

localboy · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:05 pm Post subject:

Just watched the video. Kinda the issue I'm hoping to avoid. Laughing

But we'd have a few other things to do in just as short a time.

On a side note; that 2 stroke Johnson should've started on the first pull. Wink

Levitation · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:58 am Post subject:

That video has been around for awhile.. It is photoshopped... The seapplane is from a separate video and overlaid on the staged scene with the fishermen...

denny-o

starcrafttom · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:30 am Post subject:

It's from the opening of a movie about fire bombers. Not photo shopped. I watched a interview of the director about it.

Matt Gurnsey · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 11:44 am Post subject:

thataway · Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:10 pm Post subject:

After a statement above, the stand on, give way vessel (not "right of way") should be clarified. These are inland and international rules, not state rules of navigation. In a few cases there are slight differences between "inland" and "international" rules.

The quote below is from the CG site:
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=navRulesContent#rule18

Which is good to have both on board and review periodically. Much is left out of the quotes because of the length of the document.

Rule 3: (e) The term "seaplane" includes any aircraft designed to maneuver on the water.

Rule 18 - Responsibilities Between Vessels:

Except where Rules 9, 10, and 13 otherwise require:

(a) A power-driven vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:

(i) a vessel not under command;
(ii) a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;
(iii) a vessel engaged in fishing;
(iiii) a sailing vessel.

(b) A sailing vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:

(i) a vessel not under command;
(ii) a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;
(iii) a vessel engaged in fishing.

(c) A vessel engaged in fishing when underway shall, so far as possible, keep out of the way of:

(i) a vessel not under command;
(ii) a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver.

(d) (i) Any vessel other than a vessel not under command or a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver shall, if the circumstances of the case admit, avoid impeding the safe passage of a vessel constrained by her draft, exhibiting the signals in Rule 28.

(ii) A vessel constrained by her draft shall navigate with particular caution having full regard to her special condition. [Intl]

(e/d) A seaplane on the water shall, in general, keep well clear of all vessels and avoid impeding their navigation. In circumstances, however, where risk of collision exists, she shall comply with the Rules of this Part.