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Wandering Sagebrush
Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 2771 City/Region: Northeast Oregon
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Constant Craving
Photos: Constant Craving
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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:37 pm Post subject: BBQ Safety |
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Greets,
I just bought a Magma Newport for Constant Craving, mounted on a rod holder mount. This positions the BBQ directly over the fuel fill cap and vent.
Not wanting to make a big bang with the CBrats, I thought I would seek your opinions... My plan is to cover the fill cap and vent with plastic and a wet terry towel when using the BBQ. Do you think this is safe, foolish, crazy, or just plain stupid? I am not anxious to bore another hole through the top of the gunnel, but would do so to keep from launching the boat and captain like a space craft.
Whadaya think?
Steve |
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MichaelOnTheClaraMae
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 121 City/Region: Charleston
State or Province: SC
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:22 am Post subject: |
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I would place the grill elsewhere. Have you thought about a Magma rail clamp? They work very well. _________________ Michael |
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Alyssa Jean
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2375 City/Region: Guemes Is.(Anacortes)
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: Alyssa Jean
Photos: Anna Leigh and Alyssa Jean
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:00 am Post subject: |
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I would mount the BBQ as far from the vent and fill cap as possible. Don't invite trouble, there are plenty of opportunities for disaster when boating as it is. _________________ David and Kate
Alyssa Jean 16 Angler
Anna Leigh 22 Cruiser Sold 2005
Anna Leigh 25 Cruiser Sold 2014
K7KJR C-Brats #51
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20861 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Agree 100%--get that magna as far from the fuel fill and vent as possiable. There are several mounting systems available. Wet towels etc will not make the difference if you have the appropiate fume mixture. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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Jazzmanic
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 2231 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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Now you got me thinking. Where exactly is the fuel vent on a CD-22 Cruiser? Is it near the fill cap (sides) or near the gas tanks (stern)?
Peter |
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DaveS
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 3204 City/Region: Arlington
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Shift
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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Peter,
They are the "quarter sized" stainless steel raised caps on the outside of the 22' near the fill port. If you look at the edge of them you can visualize the opening for venting. _________________ Dave S.
"Sea Shift"
C-Brat #16 |
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Jazzmanic
Joined: 07 Feb 2005 Posts: 2231 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Dave, just wanted to be sure I knew what to look for. It makes me feel better knowing that I've been using the BBQ mounted on the transom rail although cooking over the engines makes me nervous too!
Peter |
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Marooned
Joined: 13 Nov 2007 Posts: 16 City/Region: Buchanan
State or Province: TN
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Marooned
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:37 pm Post subject: BBQ Safety |
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I am trying to figure out what type of Grill and mounting hardware to install on our new 22 cruiser. Would appreciate tips, pros and cons of different systems.
Also, is there a mounting system safe to use with canvas not stowed?
What system do C-dory 22 owners use and feel secure with? |
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MOOSE
Joined: 07 Nov 2003 Posts: 619 City/Region: Rainy Lake - Int'l. Falls
State or Province: MN
C-Dory Year: 2001
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: MOOSE
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: BBQ Safety |
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Marooned wrote: | Also, is there a mounting system safe to use with canvas not stowed? |
I have a rod-holder mount dead-center on the inboard side of the transom well. It holds the Magma over the cockpit and we've grilled on it many times, as in the rain, with the all the canvas up except the aft panel. And we have yet to catch anything on fire or blow anything up.
Al _________________ .....and remember, if the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy. |
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C-Hawk
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2146 City/Region: Carpinteria / Channel Islands
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Hawk
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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I mount the BBQ over the engine well using the rod holder mounts. Works well for me. _________________ Roger
2002- CD22- "Fishtales" returned to factory 2008
2008- CD22- "C-Hawk" Sold
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A Brat I am, At sea I be
God is Great, Beer is Good.... and People are Crazy |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Al and Roger have spelled out the best and safest solution as to a place to mount the BBQ, IMHO.
If you choose to mount the BBQ off to one side, you could add another rod holder and mount and make a table on the other side on which to set trays, BBQ tools, etc.
Joe. _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous
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matt_unique
Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 1881 City/Region: Boston
State or Province: MA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Napoleon
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:20 pm Post subject: Magma Grill |
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Beware of the hot cover too.....a hot grill cover will do bad things to your gelcoat if you let it touch anything after it's hot. This issue came up for me on my last boat when I had guests cooking.... _________________ Captain Matt
Former owner of Napoleon (Tomcat) Hull #65 w/Counter Rotating Suzuki 150's. |
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drjohn71a
Joined: 15 Jul 2004 Posts: 1820 City/Region: Wichita
State or Province: KS
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Tom-a-Hawk
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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While it may seem too large, the Magma Newport model - the smaller, rectangular one - is an excellent choice. The little front shelf, the spatula, tongs, etc., all fit INSIDE the grill and you can lock it like a tool box. The dual quick release RAIL mount clamps are superior to the rod holder mounts. You can tip the unit in toward the cockpit if you want the full aft canvas on.
Also, the little blue propane storage bag fits underneath the installed grill.
There are some consumer reports on some catalog sites - I think West Marine has one - where the Newport comes across as the most favored model. They say the round bowl model runs awfully hot and it is difficult to slow cook without burning. The other, larger rectangular grill is way too large for most C-Dory models.
You can more easily stow the small rectangular model. I use it all the time. you can make toast in a jiffy on it , or put a skillet or griddle on it to cook breakfast, and a pot to cook soup, stew, chili, etc..
You can see my mounting setup on the Tom-a-Hawk album.
Good luck,
John |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20861 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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We have used the round magna with rail clamps or a set of legs on the beach. We have always had the grill on the side opposite of the fuel fill or vent (off the stern on the Tom Cat) and over the water, not over the inside of the boat--but that is just our preference. |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Another option is to use a portable BBQ that stows away when not in use.
I have a Magma Combination BBQ Shelf/Fish Cleaning Shelf in my Sea Ray and use a portable Coleman Stove/BBQ/Grille/Griddle placed on it to cook. It stows away nicely under the galley. This works so well that we seldom use the built in two burner electric/alcohol stove inside the cabin/galley.
Magma First Mate Dual Mount Cutting/Serving Tables (Three lengths)
Coleman Propane Grille/StoveFits on shelf nicely with room at the side for cooking tools and serving plates.
I have a slightly different model which allows the grille to be replaced with a griddle, but you could do the same with a small flat plate or round pancake griddle.
Both burners can be used to cook using pots, etc.
One chief advantage of this set-up is that allows you to cook outside of the cabin, eliminating cooking odors that often linger long after dinner is done, and also avoids heating up the cabin in the summer!
Another advantage, of course, is that you have a two burner stove/small BBQ all in one that stows out of the way easily.
Finally, you have a shelf which will do two or three things for your fishing endeavors:
1. Organize equipment/tools.
2. To cut bait (by adding a removable cutting board).
3. To clean fish (note the corners of the shelf/tray are cut open to aid in flushing and cleaning the board).
Just another alternative that may fit some persons needs well!
Joe. |
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