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TyBoo
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 5328 City/Region: Warrenton
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 1996
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruise Ship
Vessel Name: TyBoo
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 3:34 pm Post subject: Fishing rod holders |
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What types and arrangements do you use for pole holders while fishing?
I have always used the Scotty brand plastic jobs, which work well enough. I look at those fancy ones Scotty makes with the stainless rod and plastic every time I come across them, but haven't found a reason to spend the thirty bucks or so that each one costs.
Da Nag has some snazzy looking holders - yacht quality - that he held onto for use in his new boat. Maybe some info about those?
I'm thinking of using the rail mount Scotty brackets in the TyBoo25, since it has the raised floor and railings around the cockpit. That, plus the fact that I already have most of the hardware.
I had some Fish On brand for a while, but with the size of the monsters we catch around here, they would topple over with a good hit and leave the pole sticking straight out the back of the boat. _________________ TyBoo Mike
Sold: 1996 25' Cruise Ship
Sold: 1987 22' Cruiser |
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B~C
Joined: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 2872 City/Region: Bend
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 1999
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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We had some of those Fish On rod holders but after recieving a bunch of flak (from some ex 22' C-D owner) about them we upgraded to the Scotty Striker rod holders. The Striker has the metal rods and I believe are the ones you're refering to. We like the snot out of them, sturdy built, easier to grab your rod out of because the the part that cradles the rod handle is free to swivel. I mounted them on motorwell table gadget. If I recall we paid $28 each for them, well worth the few extra bucks over the cost of the all plastic models. _________________ Ken
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Helen O
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 555 City/Region: Cathlamet
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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I have the standard Scotty rail mounts. It's to early for me to say whether they are worth a darn or not. Haven't caught enough fish with them to know. _________________ Larry S
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My IRA
Joined: 18 Dec 2003 Posts: 233 City/Region: Springfield
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C-Dory Year: 2013
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Aidiam
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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How have you CD-25 owners mounted downriggers? I have purchased two Scotty Manuals and plan to use the Scotty Rail Mounts. What are your thoughts?
Jerry _________________ Jerry and Helen
1984 Arima Explorer sold 1985
1985 Arima 17 SR sold 1992
1992 C-Dory 22 Cruiser sold 8/96
1992 OLympic 26XLF Sold 10/2000
1989 Arima 19 SR sold 2003
2004 C-Dory 25 sold 10/05
1992 Bounty 25 Offshore Pilot sold 6/2010
2006 Arima 17 SC sold 9/2012
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TyBoo
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 5328 City/Region: Warrenton
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C-Dory Year: 1996
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruise Ship
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Jerry -
My thoughts would be that the rail mounts are just about the only way to go. That railing is sort of in the way back there, but it's well supported and should be plenty stout enough.
PS - I just sent you a Private Message about that video you mentioned having of the CD 25. |
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Helen O
Joined: 30 Oct 2003 Posts: 555 City/Region: Cathlamet
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C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Jerry
I just bought an electric Scotty downrigger (rail mount) in late November. Used it up by Gig Harbor and out on the Columbia. It calls for a supporting board to stabilize it. The board runs from the downrigger down to the gunnel. That works fine, the board keep the downrigger from tipping downward when I put the 12 lb ball up to it. The problem was when I raised up the arm for travel or docking it wanted to pivot on the rail inward. No problem, I mounted another board on the inside of the gunnel so now it's solid as a rock.
I highly recommend the electric downrigger. It's going to be difficult to reel in a fish and your downrigger at the same time. A big fish can easily wrap the line around the downrigger if you don't get it up fast enough. With the electric you just flip the switch and it comes up automaticly. |
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Da Nag
Joined: 24 Oct 2003 Posts: 2847 City/Region: Port Angeles
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C-Dory Year: 1995
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruise Ship
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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These aren't the new-fangled ones Mike was talking about, but I'm really looking forward to trying a little something old with the new boat...
My Uncle works in a foundry - he's almost 80, and has worked there for about 50 years. Back in the 50's, my dad built a pretty cool boat. About 16', with an enclosed cabin and an old flathead 4 cylinder I/O - Gray Marine, I think.
Anyway, my Uncle fabbed up tons of stuff for the boat, mostly custom bronze castings. Due to complete neglect, the boat eventually frittered away and was sold off cheap, but I snagged four very cool plated cast bronze rod holders. They're almost 50 years old, and function great. They have a unique design, not quite like any others I've seen.
Basically, the part that holds the rod is two pieces, and when together, their shafts form a cone that drops down into a hole, locking in place in 45 degree increments. When you lift the rod, the sides seperate and thr rod comes free.
Pics probably explain it better - here's one in the lowered position, and here's one in the open/raised position.
Couldn't use them on Da Nag 19, as the gunnels had no openings for the clamps to attach to. Looks like they'll be a perfect fit for the 22, though. _________________
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Wheeler Dealer
Joined: 25 Dec 2003 Posts: 247 City/Region: Wheeler, OR
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Ken "Boaterhome"
I like the look and functions of the Stiker model. My question is, can these be taken off of the mount easily so when I am crabbing they are out of the way? _________________ Jon & Terrie C-Doryless |
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B~C
Joined: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 2872 City/Region: Bend
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Bill, those are nifty rod holders, plus they have a story behind them, I'd say your uncle is a crafty one
Wheeler Dealer, those are removed from the mounting base the same as other rod holders. Twist them to line up the ear with the groove and pull up. I remove them for trailering because they interfere with my stern tiedown strap. If you look in the Blue~C photo album you can see that blue chunk O' lumber across the motor well (it is now new and improved), the to black items mounted on the board are the rod holder basses |
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Wheeler Dealer
Joined: 25 Dec 2003 Posts: 247 City/Region: Wheeler, OR
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Ken, Thanks for the photos. I like the way you have those set up. I wonder if I could mount those on the cabin side of the motor-well of my 16' . Not sure if it would be strong enough there but maybe if they were far enough to each side toward the gunnel. Any thoughts? I was originally thinking of a gunnel top mount.
Really liked the tool bucket thing-a-ma-jig. A real space saver! Home Depot here I come!! |
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B~C
Joined: 31 Oct 2003 Posts: 2872 City/Region: Bend
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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those basses can be mounted vertical or horizontal. Maybe Lyle will weigh in here with some mounting ideas, he's the 16'er fishing pro.
The tool bucket pockets are very handy, stole that idea from the idea dude, Mike. |
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TyBoo
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 5328 City/Region: Warrenton
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Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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On the TyBoo 22, I had the pole holder mounts hanging one on each gunnel skirt, and one on the center of the motor well edge, as you can see in this picture. And yes, that granddaughter of mine did catch that fish, and it did hit while her pole was in the center holder.
I think if you mount the holders all the way up to the top where the glass is formed over 90º, it will be plenty strong. In the 22, the glass is 1/4" to 3/8" thick right there (both on the motor well and the gunnels), and it is really beefed up by the corner molded into the edge. A big Dodge might be able to rip them out, but I doubt that a Ford could do it.
Your CD16 has foam closed in under the gunnels, doesn't it? It might be difficult to get nuts on the inside, but if the glass is at least 1/4" thick, some good SS screws should hold them just fine. The best way would be 10-24 or 1/4" thru bolts, washers and nuts.
A guy don't want to be takin' no shortcuts on his pole holders. |
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TyBoo
Joined: 23 Oct 2003 Posts: 5328 City/Region: Warrenton
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C-Dory Year: 1996
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:33 am Post subject: |
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There is another brief discussion of pole holder ideas in this forum. It is some info moved over here from the original CBTech site, so it is several messages and replies in one post. The eBay link is no good anymore, but I hotted up the Vector Sports link if you want to see what the Da Nag and other yachts have. There are some good points, and you can look it over right here. |
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Wheeler Dealer
Joined: 25 Dec 2003 Posts: 247 City/Region: Wheeler, OR
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the pics. I like that idea. Definitely want to through bolt whenever possible, the big pigs can put some serious tug on a holder and also those times when you snag the earth. You're granddaughter looks like she is from the same Tyboo sturgeon gene pool .
I'll need to get a better visual of gunnel next weekend but I'm sure the motor-well mounts will work. I had looked at the older posts already, thanks for the link though. |
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Wheeler Dealer
Joined: 25 Dec 2003 Posts: 247 City/Region: Wheeler, OR
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Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:38 am Post subject: |
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TyBoo Mike,
Just a P.S. from my email yesterday. I was able to get a picture uploaded. Just needed the right format and I was using the left. Yes that is a dog . |
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