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Devilfish55
Joined: 29 May 2020 Posts: 24 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Devilfish
Photos: Devilfish
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:11 pm Post subject: Fuel tank replacement 1987 22 cruiser. |
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Hello,
I've done a bit of research about replacing my original rectangular 18 gal fuel tanks on my 1987 22ft cruiser with larger 23gallons. I was able to find Moeller part numbers and diagrams for 23 gal. Part numbers FT2339(stbrd) and FT2340(port). Fishery supply has notified me that Moeller no longer manufactures these tanks... I'm waiting to hear from Cdory manufacturer but does anyone else have ideas? |
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Salmon Fisher
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 873 City/Region: Arlington
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Kim Christine
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I've heard that Moeller mistakenly threw away the drawings, plans, molds when cleaning up the plant. Too bad.
Are your tanks servicable? I'd imagine new ones are pretty expensive now. _________________ Patrick and Kim Walker
2004 25 Cruiser-Present
2000 22 Cruiser 2009-2014 (Sold)
2006 25 Cruiser 2014-2019 (Sold)
1985 22 Classic -2019 (Sold)
1991 19 Arima Sea Ranger-2019-2021 (Sold)
2015 27 Ranger Tug-2019-2023 (Sold)
1987 22 Cruiser -2021-2023 (Sold)
Honey, this REALLY will be my last boat, honest! |
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Devilfish55
Joined: 29 May 2020 Posts: 24 City/Region: Seattle
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C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Devilfish
Photos: Devilfish
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T.R. Bauer
Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 1808 City/Region: Wasilla
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Whisperer
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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Those are what I replaced mine with in 2015. They were slightly different than the originals, but they went in easy enough. |
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Devilfish55
Joined: 29 May 2020 Posts: 24 City/Region: Seattle
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Devilfish
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:13 am Post subject: |
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That's good to know!
I heard back from cdory nw marine ind in Bellingham and they will sell me the 23 gal tanks! They cannot guarantee fit... and will not return them if they don't fit. They mention the far back corners of the 1987, under the splash well being more rounded and the tanks might not fit in all the way. Can anyone confirm this? |
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Salmon Fisher
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 873 City/Region: Arlington
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Kim Christine
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:46 am Post subject: |
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I have a 1987 Cruiser and the tanks were replaced with the Moeller tanks you wanted, but couldn't get, before I purchased.
One thing you want to make sure of is when you remove the current brackets screwed into the deck is to seal those with epoxy. You might want to test out the holes to see if any water got into the core over the past 35 years.
When/if you replace tanks and install new ones, overdrill and fill mounting holes for screws with epoxy, as prescribed by many. This is so you don't have water going into the core.
Some people have tabbed/bedded in pvc lumber with epoxy into the deck and then mounted hold-downs into that for your new tanks. It might be a good idea to see if anyone can show you a fairly new boat so you can see how NMI mounts new fuel tanks.
Good luck! |
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Salmon Fisher
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 873 City/Region: Arlington
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C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Devilfish55
Joined: 29 May 2020 Posts: 24 City/Region: Seattle
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C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, great advice. I will also need to clean 35 years of mold... I have some king starboard that I cold epoxy in as tabs to keep the tanks from sliding. Are your tanks also strapped down? |
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Salmon Fisher
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 873 City/Region: Arlington
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C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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I have read that starboard does not work as epoxy will not adhere to it, thus thus the suggestion of using pvc lumber available at home depot or lowes.
I overdrilled, filled with epoxy and inverted ss machine screws into deck and reinstalled the bulkhead piece that previous owner installed. The bulkhead piece is similar to what C-Dory put in their 2000 and newer models.
Here is a link to a picture of how the factory solved the problem of screws in the deck in mid 2000s. In front would be the panel attached to aluminum angle at the bottom.
http://www.c-brats.com/modules.php?set_albumName=album1805&id=upgraded_cleats_port_tank&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php |
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Devilfish55
Joined: 29 May 2020 Posts: 24 City/Region: Seattle
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C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info! Any idea how they mount the cleat on the backside of the tank? |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3580 City/Region: SW Michigan
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C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Salmon Fisher wrote: | I have read that starboard does not work as epoxy will not adhere to it, thus thus the suggestion of using pvc lumber available at home depot or lowes. ... |
PVC lumber available from HD and Lowes is pretty soft. Occasionally you can find a batch that is harder than usual (don't know why). IME, the PVC lumber can often be marked with a fingernail.
Screws strip out of it easily. I would not use it for anything structural.
It is possible to glue starboard with certain glues. It can be epoxied if there is enough "tooth" or the area where the glue goes is sufficiently undercut (dovetail). |
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Salmon Fisher
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21469 City/Region: Pensacola
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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I have successfully glued Starboard (High Density Polyethylene) with G Flex. I use a Dremel Dove tail bit to make several cuts on the back. You can also use a Fein type of saw to make 45* angle cuts into the StarBoard. It should be lightly flame hardened before applying the epoxy. _________________ Bob Austin
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Devilfish55
Joined: 29 May 2020 Posts: 24 City/Region: Seattle
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C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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Salmon Fisher, do you have a photo of your fuel tank on the 87? |
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Devilfish55
Joined: 29 May 2020 Posts: 24 City/Region: Seattle
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C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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After a few measurements on my 1987. The new 23 gal tanks look like they will not fit. The height on the rear(stern) of the new tanks isn't specified on the diagram...I'm not sure but maybe the angle of the splash well is different on my older 1987 because I only have about 13in clearance. Can anyone confirm the height from the photos on the newer tanks?
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