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flapbreaker



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:43 pm    Post subject: freshwater foot pump question. Reply with quote

Is it normal to wait 30seconds to a minute after fully pressing the water foot pump down for it to refill? It seems like a long time. Could it be that it's still new and stiff? I've only put about 5 gallons of water in the holding tank so maybe there's not much pressure?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guess is a kink or restriction in the line between the tank and foot pump. It should fill right up. From what I remember about mine (replaced with electric), it took a two-count to depress and a three-count to be primed and ready to push again. Either that or your pump is haywire and doesn't suck, which would really suck.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So true, Mike...really sucks when what's supposed to suck doesn't Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flapbreaker,

When we received Cygnet (TomCat 24)we experienced the same problems with the fresh water foot pump. Upon inspection of the disassembled pump it was found that whoever put the system together at the factory, had used a liberal amount of 4200 type sealant on all the joints. This had almost completely obstructed the water coming to the pump. I had to ream out the lines on both sides of the pump, and the backflow valve. Worked fine after that. Only took me the first two months of frustration to get to the point of tearing into the plumbing.

At least something to consider.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flapbreaker: mine will pump the tank practically dry.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply's. At first I figured it was made for really layed back fokes but it's ridiculously slow. I'll have to tear into the pump grrr. You'd think the factory would have this down to a science. Maybe they put the new guy on pumps that day? Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

could be the new guy syndrome...I can't wait to find out why we have pinholes in the side of the boat above the waterline (thank heaven, or we mighta sunk by now) and not in the rubrail...I sure hope they call the factory...or maybe a factory guy'll see this and tell us if this has happened before...might be time to retrain the new guy Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check the hose at the rear of the cabinet, that's a sharp bend. You may have a bad check valve in the pump, if so, just replace the pump (it happens). I believe the tanks and all are left dry from the factory so the first check of all that is your sea-trial. That was my experience at least.

My foot pump remains primed at all times, so if that's not your experience once you get this problem sorted out, email me and I'll get the mfg name (maybe they've gone to a different pump). Absolutely no problems out of mine at all.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went and took a look at the foot pump. Inspected the hoses. THere doesn't seem to be any sharp bends. I added more water just incase there wasn't enough pressure. Still too slow to refill the pump. I was afraid to take the hoses off, figured I'd flood the cabin. How should I empty the tank without using the pump since that would take 8 hours?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flapbreaker wrote:
How should I empty the tank without using the pump since that would take 8 hours?


Instead of emptying it, just clamp a pair of Visegrips on the hose coming out of it.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:18 pm    Post subject: Similar issue? Reply with quote

Strange... my foot pump has always be primed - water flowed with the first step and refilled instantly. But not today. I had just ran dry, and refilled the tank the other day. Now, it takes a couple pumps to get water flowing.

I'm assuming something (algae?) is clogging the line - will start investigating next time I get down to the boat. Sure was a bit lumpy out there today - I first had thought it was just air bubbles from all the shaking that was happening...and worse yet - no fish either!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flapbreaker:

You can take the line off at the pump and tape it higher than the level and it won't flow out as well, and get a container and empty into it, dump, and refill until you empty the tank. Sounds like there might be an obstruction in the tank (or line). You'll just have to check it all out if water isn't getting to the pump to begin with. If you lower the hose and water floods out, then the problem is the pump -- check that end of it out (though you've already said water isn't filling . . .)

When water from outside is coming in . . . now there's a problem! I'm interested as heck to see what the "pinhole" resolution is.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How many of you folks put some RV antifreeze in your water tanks and pump a little through for winter storage? Somewhere along the way I think someone told me I should do this, but it is somewhat of a pain and I can't imagine a little freezing hurting a rubber flapper-type pump.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:39 pm    Post subject: OEM Parts Reference Reply with quote

I am in the process of adding a freshwater system to my 22' Angler/Cruiser and would like to use the foot pump instead of a
electric pump to "KISS" .

If anyone knows the OEM source or a simlar source please let me know.

I think it would be a good forum to add the tech library if we had a "OEM Reference Section for the different model C-Dorys out there. I know several of you have a pretty good repour with the factory and maybe one of you fine folks could put a list of parts/suppliers together and save a lot of questions of this sort in the future.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

west marine carries a foot pump, at one time I was thinking about adding an additional one out back for fish cleaning. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product/10001/-1/10001/6356/10001/74/27/11
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