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Tortuga
Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 320 City/Region: Ventura
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1994
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Tortuga
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:27 pm Post subject: Sliding Window Pane Replacement - Help! |
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I've managed to crack my port side sliding window. Don't ask how. The boat is a 1994 22' Cruiser in generally good condition -- but the sliders do stick as the 20+ years of crud has accumulated. I'm assuming I can dismantle the window by removing the screws in the frame. But, I suspect there are surprises waiting for me.
Has anyone done this, and if so, how much pain am I in for? At best, I'd like to remove the sliding pane, have a local shop cut me a replacement, and reinstall with new fuzzy trim.
And counsel you might have would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Matt
Ventura _________________ Tortuga
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12637 City/Region: Sequim
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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The windows come from Diamond Sea Glaze, a Canadian company and they have a rep for good service. Maybe a call to them.
Check this website:
http://www.c-brats.com/viewtopic.php?t=23782&highlight=windows+sliding+side
for further hints.
Harvey
SleepyC
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: Sliding Window Pane Replacement - Help! |
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Tortuga wrote: | I've managed to crack my port side sliding window. Don't ask how. The boat is a 1994 22' Cruiser in generally good condition -- but the sliders do stick as the 20+ years of crud has accumulated. I'm assuming I can dismantle the window by removing the screws in the frame. But, I suspect there are surprises waiting for me.
Has anyone done this, and if so, how much pain am I in for? At best, I'd like to remove the sliding pane, have a local shop cut me a replacement, and reinstall with new fuzzy trim.
And counsel you might have would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Matt
Ventura |
Matt- I had a cracked front side sliding window like that when I first bought my boat in 1998. Took it apart, took it to a auto glass shop and had an exact replacement made, and installed it myself. Nothing difficult at all. Hardest part was matching the tint, since the windows had all been tinted though out the boat by the original owner. For that, a auto shop would probably have the most options to get a good tint match from. Whole operation is a piece of cake. Go for it!
Joe.  _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
 
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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san juanderer
Joined: 12 Aug 2014 Posts: 235 City/Region: Stanwood
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:35 pm Post subject: Glass replacement |
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The glass comes out of the frame, the frame should not have to be removed from the boat.
There is a track in the bottom, and a track at the top. The top track might wrap around the corner and run down the sides. There should be a filler piece in the top track, that prevents the glass from being lifted out by " outside people". These pieces could be one long piece or several shorter ones, sometimes you have to slide the glass front & back to get the pieces out so you can lift the glass out. If your slider has a fixed rear glass piece, it also can be removed after taking out the slider, then the vertical frame piece that holds the fixed glass piece in, then slide the rear portion forward to lift out.
Caution ! Glass is very resilant to side impact, careful not to bump the glass edges against hard points. It can break easily.
Once you have done this once, you will easily be able to remove all glass in the future to clean your tracks. I use one of those steaming wall paper removing units to get the tracks clean like new. The crud comes out nicely with the steam.
alan _________________ Cdory 22 Angler
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Tortuga
Joined: 01 Apr 2008 Posts: 320 City/Region: Ventura
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you all for this -- I'll give it a spin and take some photos along the way to post for the next guy!
Matt |
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chriscarrera
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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I agree, don't bother with DSG, its hopeless trying to contact them and get results.
Go to a glass shop, custom cut, done. _________________ "Moore-on" Moore 24
"Carrera" 2006 Tomcat |
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PEN
Joined: 27 Aug 2016 Posts: 21 City/Region: New Orleans
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Tortuga wrote: | Thank you all for this -- I'll give it a spin and take some photos along the way to post for the next guy!
Matt |
Matt.. need to replace my glass also.. did you replace yours? if so, how did it go. thanks. Paul Nelson. New Orleans _________________ Caprice is now ready for a new home. Just installed
new engine.. Honda 90, Just 10 hours. Comes with trailer. Shore power . Air and Heat. She is ready to travel.. either by Sea or Land. |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:43 am Post subject: |
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chriscarrera wrote: | I agree, don't bother with DSG, its hopeless trying to contact them and get results.
Go to a glass shop, custom cut, done. |
Agree! I did this once. Same window.
Easy, cheap, fast, no sweat!
And no shipping.
What's not to like?
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DW
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Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:12 pm Post subject: Not so easy |
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I've ordered all the pieces; slider tracks and felt/hairy seal from DG. Very helpful on the phone and they will send you the detail assembly drawing. The only problem i had with DG was how long it took to ship the parts. In my case, the parts arrived after the rain and cold set in. (Seattle) The job will likely get done in the spring.
Harbor Freight sells these vacuum handles for moving windows (glass) back and forth with enough stability to lift the window safely out of the tracks. Well worth the money.
If anyone has completed this task, I still would like to see the photos. |
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Daphine
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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Oeee that was easy, cheap, fast, no sweat! _________________ Only with lord of the ocean
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Marco Flamingo
Joined: 09 Jul 2015 Posts: 1163 City/Region: Seattle
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Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in the process of replacing my starboard slider right now. Came out one morning and it was shattered. Once I figured out how to remove it, I went ahead and removed the port slider to take to the glass shop to use as a template. Most glass shops will not guarantee a fit if you make a template, but if you bring a piece and say "just like this," they will take responsibility for it being identical.
Seemed like a good time to vacuum out the tracks and clean the plastic runner. I even shampooed the fuzzy strip and squirted it with liquid Teflon.
Even a large glass shop in Seattle didn't have the right glass in stock. They said it would take 2-3 days to get it in stock.
Mark |
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croakz
Joined: 21 Sep 2020 Posts: 104 City/Region: Seattle
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Marco Flamingo wrote: |
Even a large glass shop in Seattle didn't have the right glass in stock. They said it would take 2-3 days to get it in stock.
Mark |
Hey Mark,
What glass place did you go to in Seattle? I cracked my starboard glass and will be looking for a place to get a replacement. Thanks!
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ggray
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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I'm curious: aren't the sliding glasses made of tempered glass?
I thought tempered glass couldn't be cut...once it had been tempered. |
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san juanderer
Joined: 12 Aug 2014 Posts: 235 City/Region: Stanwood
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Posted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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You are correct; Tempering happens after being cut.
Laminated glass can be cut anytime. |
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croakz
Joined: 21 Sep 2020 Posts: 104 City/Region: Seattle
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Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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Update: Pacific Glass in Renton, WA can cut replacement glass.
https://www.pacificglass.biz/
Mine came out OK. They used some silicone or something to attach the latch, it doesn't seem very secure. It was $60 for the glass. Also, it seems a tiny bit thicker than my stock glass, it doesn't slide as well as before.
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