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Tom on Icarus



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:07 am    Post subject: canvas photos needed Reply with quote

I would like to have a sloped canvas cover made for the cockpit of our CD25. If anyone has this setup, I would like to see photos. Especially of how it fits around the rails and splashwell at the stern. If I had photos, I could take them to the canvas maker and give him an idea. Just looking at it myself, it looks pretty complicated back there.
So if anyone would direct me to the photos in their album, or take some photos of their setup for me, I would be very grateful Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have photos, but the details is fairly easy. You take the cover straight down the sides of the cabin--use the same fasteners as the camper back if you have it. Then along below the gunnel. You can come over the gunnel and just to the beginning of the splash well--many of the camper backs use that same technique--along the upper part of the spash well all of the way across.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still Crazy has a sloped cover for trailering that is snapped just under the rear cabin overhang using twist lock type fasteners. I learned that trailering in a cross wind can un snap the standard snap fasteners, so replaced them in that area. All the rest are standard snaps. The back end of the top of the cover snaps across the front inside area of the splash well. The sides snap down the outside of the cabin sides, and along the outside of the gunnels, just above the rub rails. The top also has velcro openings to go around the camper back supports as I leave them up when trailering.

Any decent canvas shop will do a good job if you explain to them where you want to keep the rain and leaves and dust and dirt out of. HOWEVER, remember to use twist locks along the top edge of the cover where it meets the rear of the cabin. Standard snaps work well for me everywhere else, though I'm wouldn't have any snaps without my handy dandy snap setting and removal tool.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

potter water wrote:
Still Crazy has a sloped cover for trailering that is snapped just under the rear cabin overhang using twist lock type fasteners. I learned that trailering in a cross wind can un snap the standard snap fasteners, so replaced them in that area.


Another option for the forward edge might be an awning rail (with a corresponding bolt rope on the cover at that point). I've found that to be a good way to go on the forward edge of dodgers, which also "head into the wind." My 22 came with a bimini cover which is fastened to the after end of the cabin-top with an awning rail/bolt rope (and one snap on either end). I'm considering options for a boat cover and/or a slant back and was thinking I could probably use the same awning rail that my bimini uses for a slant back.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As sunbeam suggests--an awning rail is far better than twist lock snaps for the top forward of either a slant back or Bimini. The awning rail is standard for most Bimini tops--and as I illustrated on the Tom Cat, works very well on the cabin sides of a camper back.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:32 pm    Post subject: canvas photos needed Reply with quote

We used the same zipper that our camper top uses on the rear of the cabin. It also uses most of the same sanps. We left the motor well open . See pictures on the left of the home page under recent photos listed as a slant back cover.
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Tom on Icarus



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all for the replies.
Maybe I am just not familiar with the term but I don't know what a awning rail / bolt rope is. Is it the ropelike end of the canvas that slides into a tube that has been split open from end to end?
Still would like to see how the sloping canvas wraps around the back rails and transome well.

Tom
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: canvas photos needed Reply with quote

Tom on Icarus wrote:
I would like to have a sloped canvas cover made for the cockpit of our CD25. If anyone has this setup, I would like to see photos. Especially of how it fits around the rails and splashwell at the stern. If I had photos, I could take them to the canvas maker and give him an idea. Just looking at it myself, it looks pretty complicated back there.
So if anyone would direct me to the photos in their album, or take some photos of their setup for me, I would be very grateful Very Happy

Thanks Brats,
Tom


Tom, are you looking for a mooring cover, which is used to cover the aft from cabin top to the stern, or are you looking for a camper canvas which you can have on and set up while using the boat? There is a difference.

Here is a mooring cover:

and to the right is a camper canvas on a 16.

and here is a Storage cover:



If I was ordering either a storage cover or a mooring cover, I would insist that it cover both the splash well and the OB tops. Even with my storage cover coming almost all the way back to the front of the splash well, I still get leaves, dust and spiders in the cockpit.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:11 pm    Post subject: Road/storage cover Reply with quote

I have pics in my Mods album.
The cover zips to the same awning rail as the bimini. I now have about 10,000 road miles on it and it's doing well. It has the stronger snaps and towards the end of my recent trip they needed a little vaseline to make them less aggrevating to remove.
Let me know if you want more info.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Tom;
The 2005 CD25 had an optional Cockpit Cover that cost $550 (in 09/2004)which is much like a mooring cover.

I have never used mine but the first few months in 2004 immediately after my CD25 delivery. After this time I had a Camper Back Cockpit Cover made (I paid ~$2900), even though I was in dry storage.

You may want to define what your needs and wants are here. The Camper Back enclosure can run $2000 to $3500+ if you have it custom made by a shop (my guess). My Camper Back has both the 'glass & screens' options, so it could have cost a lot less.

My Camper Back uses all the same snaps as the factory Cockpit Cover which simplified the configuration. Good luck on your search.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harvey;
Nice examples.

Art
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sea Angel wrote:
Harvey;
Nice examples.

Art


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To clarify my needs........I am wanting to get a mooring cover for the cockpit made, not a camper back.

Tom
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is how I did the cockpit cover on our 22. The snaps were already on the boat for the camperback. I sewed awning rope into the top of the subrella, no zipper needed, just slide it into the roof track before you start snapping. I came back later and added a cutout for the camperback frame. There are a few more photos in our album.



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the photos Harvey and Kevin. I still would like to see how a mooring cover fits on the CD25, since that is the boat we have. The 25 has a railing that wraps around at the back and seats built into the sides of the splashwell......much diffferent than the 22 at the back.
Still, all of your inputs are greatly appreciated and you all have some great information to share.

Tom
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