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Anita Marie



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:21 pm    Post subject: Bruce or Delta anchor Reply with quote

I have a Bruce anchor on my 22' Cruiser but I also have a 14 lb. Delta that I have not used yet. What are folks feelings on these anchors? If I changed anchors what bow roller is right for a the Delta on a 22? I have anchored with the Bruce many times but I like the write ups on the Delta, it also is self launching.

Fred
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fred, I am looking into getting a Delta for my boat. I too have a Bruce. The Delta, as I have been told, will set quicker and set through grass and weeds easier than the Bruce, or any other common type of anchor. I was told that the majority of the weight of the anchor is at the "point" when it rolls and starts to set. This helps it dig in more effectively and it has more surface area for holding. (pound for pound) I need to do more research concerning the pros and cons of these anchors, and also the price, size and whether a 12 pound Delta will fit in my bow roller. I will be interested in what others have to say about these anchors. Robbi
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:17 pm    Post subject: new boat with delta Reply with quote

Just ordered a 22 from Cutter, Chesapeake Bay. All of their 22's come with
the Delta, and 150 ' of chain, with 600 windlass. The Chesapeake bottom is mostly soft mud, occasional hard sand, almost never any rocky ground. I plan to carry a small Danforth (i've always liked them) in the stern for a backup.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting read about the Delta:
www.multihullsmag.com/magazine/articles/delta.htm

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anita Marie



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, sounds like it is the Delta. Now I just need to decide what roller. The one that is on the boat now the Delta does not fit. Does anyone have a Delta installed and what roller are you using?

Thanks to everyone for the help
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the best bet is the Windline BRM-4 anchor roller. This is a real skookum self launch roller and is specifically designed for the Bruce 22# anchor and the 22# Delta as well as the 14# Delta. This roller has a lock pin which fits the Bruce anchor to secure it in place during travel and I believe it will secure both the Deltas as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The BRM-4 is what the factory is putting on the 25's.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anna Leigh wrote:
The BRM-4 is what the factory is putting on the 25's.


I wonder how he knows that?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for this thread gentlemen as I have a new 14# Delta sitting on my desk and have been wondering if the current bow roller would work with it. As soon as the temps reach double digits I'll go out and test the Delta in the current roller.
Mike 'Levity'
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have a Delta sitting on your desk???? You are either NOT very busy at your desk OR you have a really big desk.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just checked my Boat US Catalog for anchor rollers. It lists options for the 14lb Delta as follows: BRM-2, BRM-3, BRM-4, CR-1, URM-1, URM-3, URM-4; priced from $110 to $235. The URM-3 sure looks like the current anchor roller on Levity. Maybe some persuasion from the big 'ammer is all that is needed to make the Delta work with the URM-3.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bunch of us that anchor multiple times a day while stugeon fishing use Lewmar's Pivoting roller #SIMLA#66840007 (West Marine #221440). It will work well with most anyones anchor.

I also use a Bruce 22# here on the river. It holds well in the mud/sand mix and also is considered a fair rock anchor. That's small rocks and not bolders. As far as grass goes we don't have a bunch here but the 22# model with a fair shot of chain is meant for 28' to 32' boats, all of which most likely weigh in at more than a C-Dory. The ability to get into grass should be good for most any body of grass given the anchor weight and chain. Not sure what kind of wind this setup would hold in but, given river current of a spring run off on a full ebb tide at the mouth of the Columbia River, I've never felt even close to coming unhooked. Not sure about TyBoo Mike but I think this is the same setup he uses. Also Raven Dave and others so I feel pretty secure when it's deployed.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2005 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not sure about TyBoo Mike but I think this is the same setup he uses. Also Raven Dave and others so I feel pretty secure when it's deployed.


Exactly the same. My chain is 15'.

I used a fluke type anchor on my 22 CD (one size bigger than specs), and never had much for problems. I liked to deploy 75' and crank back in to 50' when sturgeon fishing in 12' to 20' depth (using those exact numbers on the line counter was superstition, you see). That held the 22 just fine and limited the swing. I have a Bruce as Tim describes on the CD 25, and I found I need at least 5:1 scope to get a set and hold in the current. A good rip of 5 knots or so, and I feel more comfortable with 7:1. Not real sure if it's the bigger boat or the different style anchor, but I much preferred the shorter scope. Fortunately, the 25 doesn't get blown around as easy at anchor as the 22 did.

I absolutely love the pivoting roller. The Bruce falls off with no swing or bounce, and parks itself right side up and dead center in the roller every time when retrieving (swivel between chain and shank). You could probably get by without the hinged job with the Bruce or Delta, but if I lost my anchor and my wife had the checkbook hidden again, I would scrounge up a cheap Danforth knockoff and be back fishing quick. And I would still be able to adhere to the cardinal rule for windlass use: Never leave the helm seat during anchoring operations.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike (Levity)-

While the catalogue lists all those models as working with the Delta, it means they will hold the anchor. It doesn't mean they will self-launch. Try it and see.

One fellow on another site added a roller in the middle of one of the "fixed" URM types to lift the shank which made it self launch.

The pivoting type referred to by Tim is what I've got and it works like nothing else.

Mike's Cardinal Rule is for safety even more than convenience and why we all want the hook to self-deploy. Good Luck! Joe.

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