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jack&susan



Joined: 26 Jul 2009
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City/Region: Olga
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:10 am    Post subject: Engine for a 22 Cruiser Reply with quote

If I can't find a properly equipped used 22 Cruiser, I'm not holding my breath, I will be ordering a new one in the near future. I am conflicted about what engine to order and seek your opinions. I am considering a 115 hp but the 4-stroke weight is a concern, especially the Honda, so the alternative is a 2-stroke, probably a Yamaha. Thanks
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Ananda



Joined: 13 Jul 2009
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City/Region: Portland
State or Province: OR
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jack&susan: Honu has a Honda 90 four stroke with an 8hp kicker. For me, it's the perfect combination and seems to work well for the boat. It goes as fast as I need with the 90 and as slow as I want with the trolling motor.

I've had a number of two-stroke motors over the years and would never go back. The newer fours are so quiet and there's no oil-smoke aroma everywhere.

Good luck in your C-Dory search. I couldn't be happier with mine.

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20dauntless



Joined: 23 Jan 2008
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City/Region: Mercer Island and Decatur Island
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a Honda 90 EFI and it is more than adequate. I often have a very heavily loaded boat heading to our cabin in the San Juans and the Honda doesn't have any trouble, even with 6 people, two golden retrievers, and everything we need for the weekend.
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Matt Gurnsey
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the 90's are more than adequate for the boat. Keep in m ind that early models were running 70/75 horse two strokes. The extra horsepower seems to make up for the four strokes perfromance loss.

We have had good success with the E-Tec motors in general, and a 90 E-Tec would be anice motor for a 22 cruiser.

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Doryman



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have Yamahas but if I knew then what I know now, I would have Suzukis. Nothing wrong with the Yamahas, and they are extremely popular (and thus well supported) in BC but the gearing and power/weight numbers are better. I used to be a Honda fan but I think their day in the sun has passed. Just a bunch of little things that add up to that feeling.

Warren

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Jazzmanic



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We love our Suzuki 90hp EFI 4-stroke. It's a brute but not too heavy for our 22' Cruiser. The newer models are even lighter. I see you're out of Olga. Master Marine in Mount Vernon has serviced our motor and has always done a good job. Seriously, look at the Suzuki's.
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Don and Brenda



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the twin Suzuki 40's. Love them. I have only put about 15 hrs on them since I got the boat, and it was jusr serviced prior to my purchase. I was just over at the Olga dock not long ago, have a friend on Orcas that is boatless, so picked him up for a day in the San Juans.
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Reviresco



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Star Suzuki Star
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starcrafttom



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the motor with the most hp for the least weight, thats my choice. My honda 90 with carbs was the leader of outboards 4 or 5 years ago, but even the new honda 90 efi is lighter and has more hp then mine. I would set down and print out all the specs of all the 90 to 115 motors and compare them. You can always run a high hp motor at a lower throttle but you can not run a low hp motor any faster then wot.
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Reviresco



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reliability should be the most important...

If you're simply looking for power:weight E-Tec usually wins

I bet my life on a single Suzuki everyday Beer
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Jack in Alaska



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have never been stranded or left floating with my Honda's.
The 90 hp carb. model on my 22' classic did an excellent job at cruising and trolling for 1300 hrs. and still continues. It gave me 4.5 to 5 mpg consistently at cruise speed.
Now I have a 200 hp Honda on my 26' ProAngler and that is one awesome motor. It gives me 2.6 to 2.85 mpg.
JMHO.

Good luck with your choice.

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colobear



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have twin Honda 40's (2006 model) on C-Cakes. Coming up on 600 hours on the engines. Not the slightest hiccup. We'd prefer the fuel injected model and would maybe go with twin 50's were we to do it all over again. Having a dealer close that can service your engine is a significant factor. We would probably have been just as happy with Suzukis.
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goldpan



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have twin yamaha 50's FI they have run flawlessly.
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DaveS



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

colobear wrote:
Having a dealer close that can service your engine is a significant factor.


We have the twin 50HP 4 stroke fuel injected Johnsons (which are actually Suzukis under a Johnson cover). We are extremely pleased with them.

I totally agree with Barry's comment that dealer service near to you as well as the availability of parts for your selected engine is most important. As has been said many times before on this site, you really can't go wrong with any of the current engines that are now on the market. Yes, some folks have purchased a "lemon", but those are very few and far between and can happen with any product (a good dealer relationship should help overcome those type of problems).

(Our Fire/Rescue boat has a 225 HP Yamaha (purchased new with the boat 8 years ago) and we have been totally pleased with it as well).

(Also previously had a 50 HP carburated Honda on our previous C-Dory and again, we were very pleased with it.....however, I do prefer the fuel injected engines over the carburated).

As you can see, I've had great experiences with three different manufactured engines.

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jack&susan



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:17 am    Post subject: Your feedback Reply with quote

Thanks to everyone who has responded to my post. I learn a little bit from every message. Jack
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