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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3396 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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I guess it depends on how you describe unsecured. If the boat is attached by the winch strap, is that secured? Some people would say yes. |
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dkbnjmn
Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 5 City/Region: Chesapeake Bay (Coan River)
State or Province: VA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Greybeard
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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 7:45 pm Post subject: Securing vessel for the road |
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I run a ratchet strap across roughly the middle of the cockpit down to strong points on each side of the trailer. In addition, I run a retired (but still excellent shape) mooring line on each side from stern cleat forward to and around a crossbeam on the trailer, and back to the cleat. When combined with standard blow lashing, she is quite secure. I tow my 22 Cruiser to the Keys and back every year (2400 miles round trip) and have never (yet! fingers crossed) had a problem. _________________ Dan Benjamin
Greybeard
22 Cruiser
Glebe Creek |
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kennharriet
Joined: 22 Jan 2009 Posts: 512 City/Region: Grangeville
State or Province: ID
C-Dory Year: 1999
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Lochsa
Photos: Lochsa
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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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The RCMP said a boat has to be secured by the bow and stern. He said he had investigated several accidents where only the bow was secured. I saw a large jet boat in a sudden stop ride over the bow roller, over the top of the truck cab and several hundred feet down the pavement on the keel. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20875 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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The boats can slide off to the side in a sharp turn, or panic stop, with jackknifing.
I have cam straps from the frame to each stern eye--I have a 12,500# rated ratchet strap over the entire boat just forward of the cleats, from the trailer frame across the boat to the frame on the other side.
I have a SS chain thru the bow eye, as well as the winch strap. If I was going to be on really rough roads, I might put a second ratchet strap on the bow...Having guide on bunks helps, but does not guarantee that there will not be side slipping in a sharp turn or accident. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
KA6PKB
Home port: Pensacola FL |
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flagold
Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Posts: 951 City/Region: Abbeville
State or Province: AL
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Dawg-E
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:39 am Post subject: |
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"Notice that a lot of power boats do not have straps on them."
I've seen 3 on the road (in various pieces) and 2 on the ground at the ramp. _________________ >Film: C-Dory Buyers Guide< |
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colbysmith
Joined: 02 Oct 2011 Posts: 4584 City/Region: Madison
State or Province: WI
C-Dory Year: 2009
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: C-Traveler
Photos: C-Traveler and Midnight-Flyer
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 9:52 am Post subject: |
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While I will, on a very rare occasion, tow my boat to the local lake without a stern strap, 99.9% of the time my stern strap is on and tight! (It's only 3 miles on lower speed limit roads to the local lake.) I use a strap that goes completely across the stern as the way my trailer is set up does not allow for a preferred cross strapping between the transom eye bolts. That tightened down stern strap still allows the boat to slide ever so slightly to one side or the other if I take a curve fast enough, or even just from a cross wind. My bow strap is tight enough to keep the bow eye under the winch so no issue with the bow ever jumping up and over the bow roller. |
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3396 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:57 am Post subject: |
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colbysmith wrote: | ...My bow strap is tight enough to keep the bow eye under the winch so no issue with the bow ever jumping up and over the bow roller. |
Mine doesn't bounce over the bow roller. It just bounces up and down a bit as the trailer flexes and goes over bumps. A vertical strap from the bow eye to the base of the winch post stops this (my post has a ring at the base probably for this very thing). |
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Sheepshead
Joined: 21 Nov 2017 Posts: 44 City/Region: hilton head
State or Province: SC
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Photos: Sheepshead
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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The landing I normally use is a short distance and slow speed limit area from my house.
I don't strap down when launching there.
after seeing all the comments, maybe I need to change my ways. |
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cmetzenberg
Joined: 04 Jan 2014 Posts: 367 City/Region: Santa Barbara
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Kanaloa
Photos: Kanaloa
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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So i trailer a Tomcat. my trailer has internal guides that prevent any sort of transverse shifting. I keep the bow winch strap and a safety chain on the bow pad eye. I've never used stern straps because of the internal bunks. However, if the bow padeye failed there would be nothing checking longitudinal motion....Thoughts? _________________ Conrad Metzenberg
07' Tomcat 255 "Kanaloa"
87' Boston Whaler Guardian 17 (BlackFlag, 03-14)
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3396 City/Region: SW Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
Photos: SoBelle
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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cmetzenberg wrote: | So i trailer a Tomcat. my trailer has internal guides that prevent any sort of transverse shifting. I keep the bow winch strap and a safety chain on the bow pad eye. I've never used stern straps because of the internal bunks. However, if the bow padeye failed there would be nothing checking longitudinal motion....Thoughts? |
I've had the winch strap fail while towing (on a different smaller boat). The boat blew over and was dragged by the stern straps until I could pull over and stop (traveling on the highway). Totaled the boat. Might have been a lot less damage if the boat had come off the trailer completely and landed upright. |
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CaptMac
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Posts: 225 City/Region: Amelia Island / Jacksonville
State or Province: FL
Photos: Blue Manatee
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 5:46 pm Post subject: boat tie downs |
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If i am towing the Blue Moon to the local boat ramp in 35 mph speed zones on the island then I will use only the back strap.
If i am towing on the interstate or anytime over a 35 mph speed zone then I will use a front and back strap.
_________________ Capt Mac Daniel
Flounder Gigging Charters
Amelia Island, Florida 32034
http://www.floundergigging.com
Flounder Gigging Charters
"The Adventure of a Night-time"
904-556-0230 Cell/Text |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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From home to the ramp at John Wayne Marine is about 3 miles. Max speed limit is 35mph. I still strap it down, bow and stern with 6K# ratchet straps, and the bow is chained down from the bow eye to the trailer with a 5K# turnbuckle. The transom, with twins, does not have a good access for a cross tie. For long tows at highway speeds I have added a cross cockpit strap just aft of the cabin bulkhead.
The plan is that the boat and trailer should be all one joined up piece.
I also have a camera inside the cabin door. It shows the cockpit and anything either side of it and behind as well.
Harvey
SleepyC _________________ Though in our sleep we are not conscious of our activity or surroundings, we should not, in our wakefulness, be unconscious of our sleep. |
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Nancy and Bud
Joined: 02 Aug 2019 Posts: 310 City/Region: Nashville
State or Province: IL
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Emma Mae
Photos: Emma Mae
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:55 am Post subject: |
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Tell us more about the camera setup |
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Foggy
Joined: 01 Aug 2013 Posts: 1526 City/Region: Traverse City; Northern Lake Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2014
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Boatless in Boating Paradise
Photos: W B Nod
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:23 am Post subject: |
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Having seen a boat dislodged forward on top of the tow vehicle after an
interstate emergency highway stop and another lying sideways on concrete
after rolling off its trailer from slow speed cornering (US 1, Keys Hwy), I
strapped my 26' CD Venture with staunch ratchet straps*: one athwart ship
strap over the cockpit (like Blue Moon above), one short vertical bow strap
and two "X" directed stern straps.
* 5,000 lb Snappin Turtle Tie Downs; the metal ratchets were wrapped then
taped to protect the hull when underway.
Better safe than sorry making the boat/trailer one practical unit.
Aye. _________________ "I don't want any cake" - said no one ever.
If someone tells you they don't eat cake, unfriend them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life. |
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hardee
Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Posts: 12633 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sleepy-C
Photos: SleepyC
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Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Meade's wrote: | Tell us more about the camera setup |
It is a simple "EyeBall" camera, designed to run on a 9VDC battery*. I replaced the battety with a hard wire and cig plug that goes into yhe 12VDC Cig plug at the helm and runs off the boat battery that is charged when towing. It has about a 90 degree view, so when tilted doen a bit, it shows most of the cockpit floor, the OB's and the rack for my inflateable overhead. Shoe traffic on both lanes approaching from the rear, (lanes to left and right of me when I am in the center of a 3 lane road). Due to the wide angle effect, it takes a while to learn to judge distance, but it works.
* The standard 9VDC battety would only last about 3 hours.
The monitor is a wireless receiver that plugs into the 12VDC Cig plug in the truck.
Simple and effective. The camera set was about $60 IIRC.
Now, back to the regular thread subjuct. It allows me to monitor the tiedown strap and watch for anything floppy.
Harvey
SleepyC |
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