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Capital Sea



Joined: 16 Dec 2007
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City/Region: Olympia
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Capital Sea
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David, my C-Dory is a 22', thanks for trying though.
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Capital Sea



Joined: 16 Dec 2007
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City/Region: Olympia
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Capital Sea
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is the link for the cup holder Mfg. http://www.seasucker.com/
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Papillon



Joined: 31 Mar 2005
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City/Region: DeBary, Fl. *On the St. John's River*
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C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.bigmouthboatsupply.com/4hove.html

Capital Sea , check out this product (link above) and the entire SeaSucker line. It may be what you saw? Their products work great.

(On Edit) You beat me to it Capital..and it was the same item I see.!

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Valkyrie



Joined: 09 Jan 2005
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City/Region: Loudonville
State or Province: OH
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Valkyrie II
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RE: foam-backed headliners. I had a vinyl foam-backed headliner on my Jeanneau Tonic 23 and it did look good, help with condensation and was easy to clean.

However, after a number of years the foam deteriorated and the headliner started to sag. Initially I tried to re-attach it with a factory-reccomended contact cement and that looked horrendous. Finally, I had to scrape off the entire mess and have a canvas guy put up some "monkey fur" which would not break down.

While the headliner will give the boat a finished look, it will probably become unsightly and a tedious and expensive problem to remedy, based on my experience.

I was told that the deterioration was caused by heat. We live in Ohio and do get some very warm weather in the summer, so perhaps those in the PNW and Alaska will fair better, but those in the south would detect the problem sooner.

Nick
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20dauntless



Joined: 23 Jan 2008
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City/Region: Mercer Island and Decatur Island
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Retriever and Nordic Tug 37
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My concern with the headliner in the PNW is mildew. It can be difficult to keep a boat's interior dry all the time, especially in the winter when you can't have a heater or dehumidifier running.
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Sea Wolf



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City/Region: Redding
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C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the headliner utility and longevity issues depend a lot on the knowledge and experience of the manufacturer and the subsequent selection of quality materials being installed in the proper manner.

Some less experienced manufacturers or boat owners using these type of materials, especially of inferior grade, will get mixed, sometimes poor, results.

The headliner on my Sea Ray is at least 3/4" thick, and composed of multiple layers of various materials designed to insulate and breathe, and has never shown any condensation or mold/mildew. The whole boat shows experience and quality in construction and materials, and after 20 years, shows very little wear and deterioration inside and outside.

Joe. Teeth Thumbs Up

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hardee



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City/Region: Sequim
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:14 am    Post subject: Venture 23 transom Reply with quote

What I saw that I liked. The transom on the Venture 23. WOW, High, nice with good storage and the battery storage too. Also, really nice big useful cockpit steps and storage. Maybe Idea I could talk Oldgrowth Dave, into cutting my boat in half and putting on a V-23 stern and transom. Thumbs Up

What I really liked. Talking to Jim King about the future of the "Alaska Series" inflatables. Good things coming. A new PNW dealer who is, shall I say, a bit more responsive to the customer, and more fitting with the Jim King quality philosophy. Yes my friends, the infamous "Alaska Series" is going to be available at Island Marine Center on Lopez Island. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up 2007 Jim sold 85 boats, 2008 Inflatable Boatworks sold 15. He is looking for a better year this year. Folks looking for a great inflatable might want to check out the IMC crew. They are just a few minutes from Friday Harbor if you are up there for the CBGT.

Great fun at the SBS and CBGT-09. Glad we could see you there.

Harvey
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Doryman



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C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:29 am    Post subject: Re: Venture 23 transom Reply with quote

hardee wrote:
Talking to Jim King about the future of the "Alaska Series" inflatables. Good things coming. A new PNW dealer who is, shall I say, a bit more responsive to the customer, and more fitting with the Jim King quality philosophy. Yes my friends, the infamous "Alaska Series" is going to be available at Island Marine Center on Lopez Island. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up 2007 Jim sold 85 boats, 2008 Inflatable Boatworks sold 15. He is looking for a better year this year. Folks looking for a great inflatable might want to check out the IMC crew. They are just a few minutes from Friday Harbor if you are up there for the CBGT.


That is extremely good news. I had some very frustrating experiences with IBW last year (involving a lot of finger-pointing between King and IBW), which led to a very strained relationship between myself and Jim. I did not want to post a message trashing the Alaska Series because the problem was really with IBW, yet I wanted to warn Brats about potential problems. Fortunately the occasion never arose and now I can post a positive message about the Alaska Series, which I think is a great dink.

From everything I have heard about IMC, they are a class operation. I've talked to them about the Ocean Sport Roamer 30 (on my short-list of possible next boats.)

Warren

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Socrateur



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City/Region: Danville
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C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can vouch for the integrity of the IMC folks because they are storing my boat on their premises and they are taking very good care of it while I am 850 miles away. They provide me with piece of mind.

That's good news about their carrying the Alaska series because I am considering a replacement for my current dinghy, and it makes me happy to have opportunities to help out the local businesses on Lopez whenever possible. It isn't easy to make a go of it on a small island like that. Lopez and its inhabitants and businesses are real gems, and they work very hard to maintain a self-sufficient community based on trusting relationships and volunteerism.

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hardee



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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City/Region: Sequim
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C-Dory Year: 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:15 am    Post subject: Lopez July 4 Reply with quote

Jay said, Speaking of the businesses on Lopez Island,
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"....while I am 850 miles away. They provide me with piece of mind.

That's good news about their carrying the Alaska series because I am considering a replacement for my current dinghy, and it makes me happy to have opportunities to help out the local businesses on Lopez whenever possible. "


Jay, are you going to be in the area for July 4 this year? I heard there may be some C-Brats in the area for the 4th. Would like to get to cross wakes some time.

Harvey
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jennykatz



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C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Little Treasurer
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:47 pm    Post subject: hotel Reply with quote

HI everyone Loree and I had a great time here in Seattle for the show and the gathering. We liked the Tomcat with it's big bed up front and lots of storage .We also liked what they did to our cape cruiser(venture) lots more storage and better finish .I think C-dory (Fluid )will do good and I wish them great success. If we win the lottery it will be between the 25Ranger or the 255 tomcat.

We also like the Larkspur hotel we hope we can stay there again . Thanks again for the Waggoner I'm trying to get my friend interested in renting a boat up in the sanjuans this summer .

Just a side note we lost a set of car keys at the hotel the mgr . sent them next day to us. fed-ex . What Great customer service we need to keep busineses like that alive and well .

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amy and karl



Joined: 18 Aug 2006
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City/Region: Graham
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C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:27 pm    Post subject: Floatation Reply with quote

Capital Sea- Yes you will find foam under the forward section of the vberth. We have been considering this and aren't sure if it would be worth the mess. Karl
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hardee



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Larkspur, rooms very nice, prices reasonable. Meeting room, Sorry, but my opinion is that it was too small. Sure nice otherwise. Sure do appreciate all the work that went into setting it up though, and the ease of getting to and from.

Harvey
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Joined: 23 Jan 2008
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City/Region: Mercer Island and Decatur Island
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw on the Whaler forum that the factory only had 12 boats on the line recently because their sales are way down. For those of you that went to the factory party, has did it look like production had been significantly reduced? Or was it business as usual?
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Jon - CLou



Joined: 02 Nov 2003
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City/Region: Port Angeles
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C-Dory Year: 1986
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What did I see at the Boat Show?

I saw "Bone"!
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