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Interesting--also interesting is that their respoinse is that you have to buy the CF card, to get it "populated"; maybe that's a British thing? Of course the CF card is a standard camera card available at Wally World for about $20 (if you can even find a 228 mb card these days--most are 1 gig).
RayMarine site says:
"How do I upgrade the software in my C-Series (C70, C80, C120) or E-Series (E80, E120) Multifunction Display? Is it something I can do myself?
Answer
Upgrading the software on the C70, C80, C120, E80 and E120 is fast and easy using a commonly available Compact Flash memory card, a memory card reader for you PC or Mac, and the latest Raymarine multifunction software, available by download from Raymarine.com.
Before beginning the software upgrade, you may wish to read the following related answers from the Raymarine knowledge base:"
The most recent upgrade is dated March 23, 2007.
There is a discussion of the RayMarine issues on Panbo at:
http://www.panbo.com/archives/2007/08/waas_weirdness_part_iii.html
I am a little surprised that RayMarine didn't anticipate this, since it has been a known since at last last Dec when the first new satellite was "turned on"--later this year seems very vague, considering how many Raymarine units have been sold.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| thataway wrote: |
I am a little surprised that RayMarine didn't anticipate this, since it has been a known since at last last Dec when the first new satellite was "turned on"--later this year seems very vague, considering how many Raymarine units have been sold. |
When Raymarine informed me that my discontinued unit was not affected, but their latest and greatest flagship products are, I immediately assumed bad programming on their end. My first thought was, that somebody hard-coded the WAAS satellite information into the C80/E80 firmware, rather than programatically discovering the correct satellites as was done on earlier units.
I haven't dug around much for verification, and finding a reliable source who can pinpoint the cause of the failure in Raymarine's proprietary firmware code is unlikely to surface. Suffice it to say, there's no excuse for such a dumb mistake, and Raymarine and others shouldn't be cut any slack for this screwup. Not only did they have tons of notice of this action, but they have pre-existing algorithms coded into the firmware of older units that handled the changeover seamlessly.
My completely wild-a$$ guess as to the delay in providing a firmware update for the E80/C80 units: it's probably not a trivial piece of code. Raymarine probably needs the time to completely rewrite the WAAS discovery algorithm correctly, coding it as it should have been done in the first place, without simply adding hard-coded values for the new WAAS satellites. If this is the case, there will be significantly more testing involved prior to releasing the firmware. Were they simply adding additional hard-coded values for the new WAAS satellites, the firmware could be released in days...but they would find themselves back in the same boat next time a WAAS satellite replacement was necessary.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:37 am Post subject: |
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| thataway wrote: | | also interesting is that their respoinse is that you have to buy the CF card, to get it "populated"; maybe that's a British thing? |
No, it's a geek term, and not a very good use of it at that, just like a patient "presenting" is a medical term. Not British at all.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Bill, Thanks for the explaination.
Warren, I had always used "downloaded" I am not "geek" enough to have heard the term "Populated", thanks. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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I use it for databases. Build a database and populate (import) an existing database. Warren wrote a computer column on database stuff.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Raymarine just published update software for C and E series on their website. Have yet to try it.
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I just downloaded and installed. Further comments are more appropriate to Batty's topic on Secrets of Raymarine so have posted there.
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Gumpy, would you post a link? What do you do, update the flash card?
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| Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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Well, we had such an awful time the last time we did a firmware upgrade on our C80 that I am very disinclined to attempt it again. It locked up and we had to disconnect the power to get it to reset...anyway, it seems to be working fine with or without the additional satellites, so somebody explain why I should go through this nightmare again...
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:16 am Post subject: |
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check on "Secrets of Raymarine" where I posted Raymarine's instructions on how to do the WAAS update. I saved their download onto a scandisk I use for Raymarine updates and then followed their instructions on how to update. Its actually pretty straightforward. One thing however, when you save their file to disk, it will be a Zip file. You must extract that and copy the two files included in the 4.26 folder on to the scandisk separately else the C-80/E-80, etc. won't recognize it. Then follow Grumpy's helpful advice posted on this thread.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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| I did the upgrade with no trouble. You will need to go into the gps status page and go to "other options" using the softkey and turn WAAS back on. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Pat Anderson wrote: | | Well, we had such an awful time the last time we did a firmware upgrade on our C80 that I am very disinclined to attempt it again. It locked up and we had to disconnect the power to get it to reset...anyway, it seems to be working fine with or without the additional satellites, so somebody explain why I should go through this nightmare again... |
Gosh Pat, you can do it! The more you do it, the better you'll get at it. I'm sure the folks on this site can walk you through it!! 
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Pat Anderson
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Too damn complicated! Let's see, Raymarine screws up its programming, then makes US jump through these ridiculous hoops to fix THEIR mistake? The fix should be freely downloadable! I forgot my username and password for the Raymarine site, OK, got it by email. This is not enough - now to download the fix for their goof, you have to join the "VIP Insider" club. To do this, you have to know both the date you purchased your product and its serial number. I don't have the receipt at hand, and as far as I can tell, getting the serial number will require me to take the unit our of the mount...Some day, SOME manufacturer is going to figure out that unit with a great intuitive UI that uses free NOAA charts on an SD chip, coupled with great customer service, can own this market lock, stock and barrel. Oldgrowth Dave, here is your next career opportunity! |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Pat - and others -
I also downloaded the new software 4.26 and installed it today. I can mail you the card -ready to install
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