Wallas Woes

Pat Anderson · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:58 am Post subject:

Mike, we burned kerosene in both our CD22 and CD25 for two years each without problems, used diesel for a little while on the CD22, smells bad and does NOT store worth a damn. I'll bet a lot of folks have burned kerosene without problems for a lot longer.

rogerbum · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:36 am Post subject:

I've burned diesel in my for 5 years with no problems. My personal theory is the people who burn something other than diesel have more problems with the Wallace as there seems to be a correlation between posts of problems and fuel use (at least to my biased eye). However (as I've suggested before), I think we could do a little more scientific study of this issue with a poll/questionairre of the members. I'd like to know
1) How long have you had your Wallace?
2) On average, how many hours a month do you think you use your Wallace?
3) How many problems have you had?
4) What fuel do you use most often?

mikeporterinmd · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:37 am Post subject:

When we bought our boat, I was under the impression that the previous
owner had never turned on the Wallace. He tested it with what I believe
was quite old fuel (diesel). Worked fine. I always burn diesel. I talked to
Scanmarine about growth in diesel, etc, and they said it would not matter.
The filters are not fine enough to clog it and the growth will just burn
off. There can be a vague odor sometimes, but not much. This is a 2002
unit. Basically, Scanmariine said "diesel, diesel, diesel and it will work
fine." I know other people burn other stuff, too. But, I can buy diesel
where I buy gas and that saves a bunch of trouble.

Mike

Dora~Jean · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:40 am Post subject:

My Wallas 1300 heater is pretty young yet, but I think same mechanism as the stove/heater most others have except mine is all automatic.

1) How long have you had your Wallace? 1 1/2 yrs
2) On average, how many hours a month do you think you use your Wallace? About 30 hrs total, 6 trips (needing heat)
3) How many problems have you had? 0
4) What fuel do you use most often? Kleanheat exclusively

flapbreaker · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:04 am Post subject:

I've had mine for about 1.5 years. Burned klean heat from day one. It's ran over night probably 20 times and at least that many hours during fishing. No problems. Yet.

mikeporterinmd · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject:

Is Klean Heat kerosene or something else?

Mike

flapbreaker · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:57 pm Post subject:

El and Bill · Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:21 am Post subject:

We have had a Wallas for 6 years, used every day for at least two hours for about half that time, and have used Kleen Heat for about 4 of the most recent of those years. Began having problems igniting for its last six months (needed to have shore power or engines on to ignite).

Now have replaced it with another Wallas and have been using the new stove daily for min of 4 hours a day for the past month -- only Kleen Heat -- runs perfectly.

Dora~Jean · Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:12 am Post subject:

Klean Heat is nearly odorless, maybe 1/4 (or less) the odor of regular kerosene. Another property, I haven't detected any deterioration of its strength or quality in my 1 1/2 yr old stock (since purchased, don't know when manufactured). I see no residue or precipitation whatsoever at the bottom. Wonder what its shelf life is before it loses a substantial amount of its volatility and other properties -- any petroleum chemists out there want to venture a guess?

Scan Marine vocally admonishes anything but diesel to be used in the Wallas, yet when pressed about Klean Heat, they say they're not really familiar with it -- an honest answer. They're most concerned with its lubrication properties for the pump mechanism, they just don't know. I'll continue to use it until convinced otherwise -- it's just so clean and practically odorless.

My 2c.

mark&diana · Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:45 pm Post subject:

We are brand new boat owners and have yet to try out our Wallas - but I'm trying to gather as much information as I can on its use. Of course there is a LOT of useful information on this forum - but is there suppose to be a manual that comes with the Wallas as well? The 'manual' we got with from C-Dory has a one pager on the Wallas - is there suppose to be more?

Just 'googling' - I came accross the following "fitting guide" for the Wallas 85DU (which I think is what is on the boat - need to check).

http://www.kuranda.co.uk/images/stories/User_Manuals/85D%20Fitting%20guide.pdf

Would appreciate any other references that may be out there. Thanks!

Pat Anderson · Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:27 pm Post subject:

We did not get a manual with either of our Wallases - I think there is a manual, and wonder why it does not come with the boat. In fact, we did not get a "manual" with our CD25, only a notebook with a collection of component manuals. In another thread, somebody said C-Dory now provides a manual for the CD25. Perhaps somebody who has a manual for the Wallas could PDF it up...

drjohn71a · Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject:

Pat,

I downloaded a manual from somewhere on this site a year ago. Can't remember where from.

John

Bill.Secure · Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject:

There is a paper manual for the CD-25. Some of it is unique (such as wiring diagrams) and much of it is a collection of individual vendor manuals. It isn't the most complete document in the world but it is sometimes helpful. If I had a scanner and software to create a PDF I'd be happy to create an automated version, but I have neither.

I was given a Wallas manual with the boat. It's main focus is installation with a couple of small pieces on operating instructions. I read on one of these threads that the only true service manual is written in Finnish.

Bill Moseley
Edgewater, MD

drjohn71a · Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject:

The "manual" I had was just two typewritten sheets - no spectacular info.

Re: the initial problems of this thread, I think sometimes you have to help "prime" the pump by either pressing gently on the sides of fuel tank, and/or raising the fuel tank up so the fluid level is closer to that of the stove workings. I know that if one overdoes this, that little pan will overflow with fuel, but it worked on my unit.

John

mark&diana · Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:50 pm Post subject:

I appreciate the input.

The TC 255 'manual' I got was a notebook as well, generally consisting of copies of product brochures, etc (but still helpful).

In terms of the Wallace - I suppose that if someone had the time, they could assemble all the advice that has been shared here on C-Brats site and assemble a pretty helpful document.