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Pat Anderson
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 8553 City/Region: Birch Bay, WA
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Daydream
Photos: Daydream and Crabby Lou
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject: Cable Boot |
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When Carl at EQ was installing the Honda BF15 kicker, we noticed that the boot where all the control cables and the fuel line go through the side of the motor well was toast - really disintegrating, apparently it is rubber and UV has taken its toll. Has anybody else replaced the boot? First off, West Marine only had boots that had four screw holes, this has six. Then, the "correct" way to replace it would be to disconnect all the cables, slide the boot over them, screw the boot in place and reconnect all the cables - not for the faint of heart! Les suggested just cutting a slit in the boot and using clamps - he also said there might be vinyl boots that would last longer than the rubber boots, but we have not found one yet - have not done any extensive internet research yet though. I wonder if this is another "epidemic" that all you 2004 - 2005 CD25 owners will now start noticing on your boats... _________________
DAYDREAM - CD25 Cruiser
CRABBY LOU - CD16 Angler (sold 2020)
Pat & Patty Anderson, C-Brat #62!
http://daydreamsloop.blogspot.com
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Lucky Day
Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 215 City/Region: Churchton
State or Province: MD
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Lucky Day
Photos: Lucky Day
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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I purchased the replacement boot for my CD-25 from Cutter Marine. It has the split to go over the cables and the right number of holes. |
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Sea Skipper
Joined: 22 Jan 2005 Posts: 51 City/Region: Bend, Oregon
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Skipper
Photos: Sea Skipper
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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My boot has also disintegrated and, except when cruising, the boat is always covered. I removed the old boot and using it as a pattern, made a replacement from a piece of 3/16" black EPDM flat rubber. A 2"+/- hole for the cables was cut toward the lower edge and I made a single cut from the outside edge to this hole so that it could be slipped over the cabling. Looks good to me. The hard plastic flange does not need to be removed. _________________ Hank Brooks
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Larry H
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2041 City/Region: Tulalip,
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1991
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Photos: Nancy H
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Pat,
I would check around with several boat dealers and suppliers. A small dealer can't stock all boots on the market. _________________ Larry H
A C-Brat since Nov 1, 2003
Ranger Tug 27 ex 'Jacari Maru' 2017 - 2022
Puget Trawler 37 ex 'Jacari Maru' 2006-2017
1991 22' Cruiser, 'Nancy H'--1991-2006 |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
Photos: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:06 am Post subject: |
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Impolite invasion of privacy questions The Devil Makes Me Ask:
How come 2005 boats have disintegrating rubber boots?
My 20-year old 1987 CD-22 has the original boot on it, and it's just fine.
Did the EPA outlaw quality rubber ? Are the rubber trees holding out for a better deal? Is Neoprene now classified as a carcinogenic? Did Ted Turner get a corner on the market? Where's Rubber Man when you need him? Want to contribute to our "Rubbers for World Peace Prayer Marathon"?
Just found out the other day that you can't buy or use zinc chromate metal primer anymore in California. There is a self-etching subsitute, though, at $16 a spray can, and it works good, at least so far...
Joe. _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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Larry H
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 2041 City/Region: Tulalip,
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1991
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Photos: Nancy H
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:51 am Post subject: |
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Joe,
Ah...The joys of California!!
They are protecting you from that cancer causing spray paint, whether you want to be protected or not!!
We can still buy the stuff in Washington.
Seriously, zinc chromate primer is bad stuff, O/B mechs called it "green death", and it can cause cancer. Always wear a chemical respirator when spraying. |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
Photos: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Larry H-
Thanks for the info!
We used zinc chromate paste on sailboats, expecially when assembling stainless hardware on an aluminum alloy mast with stainless machine screws or rivets because of the dissimilar metals / corrosion problem.
Tied to get some z/c spray paint when rebuilding the two Mercruiser outdrives on my Sea Ray last week, but found out about the restriction and newer products.
Joe. |
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sportner
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 386 City/Region: Buckeye
State or Province: AZ
C-Dory Model: 26 Osprey
Vessel Name: Glory Days
Photos: Traveler
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:05 am Post subject: |
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Lucky Day, can you get the name of the manufacturer of your replacement boot? Mine is shot too.... _________________ RUSS & TONI |
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Lucky Day
Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 215 City/Region: Churchton
State or Province: MD
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Lucky Day
Photos: Lucky Day
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Sure thing, Sportner. I should be down to the boat in a day or two. I will get the info off the package and post it here. |
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journey on
Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Posts: 3595 City/Region: Valley Centre
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: journey on
Photos: Journey On
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Joe/Sea Wolf ( since when Lake Shasta is considered a sea?)
Anyway, when I picked up my boat in 2005, I noticed the boot was pre-disintegrated. Upon wondering why, I noticed that the thing was made in China. I think that says it all. They must be using the old natural rubber.
You might check and see if you have one made elsewhere.
Boris |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
Photos: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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journey on wrote: | Joe/Sea Wolf ( since when Lake Shasta is considered a sea?)
Anyway, when I picked up my boat in 2005, I noticed the boot was pre-disintegrated. Upon wondering why, I noticed that the thing was made in China. I think that says it all. They must be using the old natural rubber.
You might check and see if you have one made elsewhere.
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Boris-
Can't find any identifying marks, but I'm not going to disassemble it, either.
Has four screw holes, a steel ring base that the "rubber" is cast around and which makes up the boot, and appears to be Neoprene or something similar, not soft rubber.
It's a little rusted through around the screw holes, but otherwise fine and serving it's second motor.
Plead nolo contendere on the charges of Fraudulent Representation of a Frog Pond as the High Seas. Pardon My Pondificatory Exaggeration. Will send frozen frog legs in lieu of normal bail.
Joe. |
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Lucky Day
Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 215 City/Region: Churchton
State or Province: MD
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Lucky Day
Photos: Lucky Day
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sportner
Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 386 City/Region: Buckeye
State or Province: AZ
C-Dory Model: 26 Osprey
Vessel Name: Glory Days
Photos: Traveler
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Lucky Day, thanks for the info on the boot!! |
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Minnow
Joined: 03 Dec 2003 Posts: 190 City/Region: East Amwell
State or Province: NJ
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Minnow
Photos: Minnow
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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I just ordered one from Outdoor Superstore. $9.25 plus s&h = $16. |
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Swee Pea
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 402 City/Region: Bath
State or Province: NC
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Swee Pea
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