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russoboat
Joined: 11 Jul 2004 Posts: 23 City/Region: Southampton, NY
State or Province: NY
C-Dory Year: 2005
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: Porgy Man
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:17 am Post subject: Sprint/400 windlass |
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Need to know if I can install 1/2" 8-plait rodes with 5/16" shackle on a Sprint/400 windlass
My existing rodes is twisting and fails to rewind sometimes, I'm in saltwater 7-months of the year.
This is my first windlass I did not know the proper storing on it last winter, I know now that I need to wash it down.
I've purchase a new swivel as I've seen from some of your posting, now I want to replace my 3-strand rope.
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Old Jim
Joined: 04 Jul 2006 Posts: 61 City/Region: Chicago
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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I would do some research on anchoring and anchor rodes before switching to braided rope for your rode.
Three strand is more elastic and serves as a shock absorber when anchored when the wave action kicks up a bit. That helps prevent the boat from snapping and also aids in keeping the anchor from pulling out.
You don't say if you are using any chain on your rode but if your are, the prevailing wisdom seems to say you need to have your rope spliced to the chain rather than attached with a shackle so that the winch doesn't hang up on the shackle. However, that method of attachment is more subject to chafe and needs to be inspected regularly.
There are threads here on how to deal with twisting anchor rodes. Find them by doing a search. Two things that we did to eliminate that problem on our sailboat were to, first, completely uncoil the entire rode and then feed it into the anchor locker so that it laid in naturally and came out the same way when deploying the anchor. The second thing was to stop retrieving the rode for a short time just before the chain began to come out of the water. That allows the anchor to twist around and unwind any kinks that may have developed.
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20875 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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Generally three strands work better with these "self tailing" windlasses. Some rodes are stiffer, and work better. I have personally not had any problem with rope/chain and have used then on and off for about 25 years.
You cannot pass a 5/16" shackle thru the windlass gypsy--only 1/4" HT chain and 1/2" line or 7/16" line is recommended. A 5/16" shackle directly to the anchor is probably OK. I tend to find High test shackles, since they are the weakest link. _________________ Bob Austin
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Generally, the stiffer New England Ropes Premium 3-strand nylon anchor line works the best in most windlasses (Gratituous Generality!).
Your Sprint 400 has a plastic gypsy. When it seems to slip on the rope a lot and a change in rope doesn't help, you may need to replace the gypsy. The sharpness of the "teeth" is lost. Ones that are made of metal last much longer (like on the Sprint 600).
Windlasses can be a PITA, but once you get all of the components working together, viola! (sp?)
Good Luck!
Joe. _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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John S
Joined: 06 Jul 2006 Posts: 277 City/Region: Sterling
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:08 am Post subject: Sprint 600 |
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I just replaced the sprint 400 with the Sprint 600 (bought on E-bay) on my 24 TomCat. So far I'm real happy with the performance and we've used it 4-5 times in the 1 1/2 weeks since I've installed it. (letting out 600' of line on one anchoring) The down side is that you have to change over to bigger wire. (Bought that cheap on E-bay, marine grade too, even installed battery lugs for me.)
I run around 650' of 3-strand line. When I changed windlasses I thought the first 150' ft of line was a little bit ratty, so I completely changed the rope ends and braided the chain to the end that was formerly the bitter end in the rope locker, work great, looks good.
By the way the Srpint 600 has the EXACT same footprint as the Sprint 400, (verified by the factory) so no new holes.
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