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CAVU
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 665 City/Region: Spokane
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: CAVU
Photos: CAVU
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Les. I can't remember where I read that. _________________ Ken Trease
22 CD Cruiser, CAVU
Twin 40HP Hondas |
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SENSEI
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 1067 City/Region: Stanwood
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1995
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
Vessel Name: SENSEI
Photos: SENSEI and SERENITY
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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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I rewired the Sensei about a year ago and I went to my local Napa store and had them order in the marine grade wire. I went with #4wire both + & - and they crimped them for me.actualy they let me borrow the crimping tool for the weekend and I was able to get it done that way.
I went with the larger wire so that if I decide to go with a windlas later on it is ready. I also put a 70 amp circuit breaker at the battery box end of the wire. _________________ Roger on the "SENSEI"
1983 22 Classic (acquired 1995)
1995 25 Cruiseship (sold 2012)
1993 22 Cruiser (sold 2014)
1995 22 Angler (acquired 2016)
1983 22 Classic (sold 2017) |
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CAVU
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 665 City/Region: Spokane
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: CAVU
Photos: CAVU
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Roger, another great idea. I will check with my local NAPA. I was planning on using a 30Amp at the battery end. I bought the boat used so I don't know if the factory or the dealer rigged it, but they used an in-line 30A fuse at the battery. My owner's manual has a basic wiring diagram and it also shows a 30A fuse in-line near the battery. I hadn't considered making provisions for a future windlass. Would #4 wire run a windlass and the buss behind the dash? I have no idea what amps a windlass needs, but it must be pretty high. |
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Dora~Jean
Joined: 09 Mar 2004 Posts: 1504 City/Region: Simi Valley
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Dora~Jean
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Ken,
Most windlasses sized for our boats will draw approx 30-35amps loaded. Go with minimum of 50 amp fuse/breaker, 70 probably ideal. Remember, the fuse/breaker isn't there to protect your equipment, it's there to prevent an electrical fire from overheating the wire under load in the event of a short. The small fuses (2, 5 amp) feeding your electrical devices are provided equipment protection.
Steve |
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Sneaks
Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Posts: 2020 City/Region: San Diego (Encinitas)
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1993
C-Dory Model: 16 Angler
Vessel Name: C-Brat
Photos: Jenny B and C-Brat
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Ken, I took a cheaper route. I ran #6 from the existing 50 amp breaker near my batteries directly to the Windlass breaker, then over to the existing electrical bus behind the helm, essentially paralleling the existing wire. (Also did the negative bus the same way) I have no problem with voltage fluctuations and my windlass works just fine.
I bought a Harbor Freight crimper that was big enough for #6 terminals and with judicious use of heat shrink tubing with adhesive inside, it ended up very professional looking in spite of myself.
I would say #4 would work just fine for Windlass and everything.
Don |
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Rabidfish Dealer
Joined: 29 Jul 2005 Posts: 117 City/Region: Noblesville, Indiana
State or Province: IN
Vessel Name: Les Poisson Enrage'
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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If the total distance from the (Batt +) through the entire circuit (to the windlass motor) and back to (Batt-) is less than 50ft you can use 6ga wire for the windlass, so long as you don't run anything else on the circuit.
I would run the windlass circuit separate from the "house" system just to keep connections to a minimum and to prevent a windlass malfunction from affecting the rest of the boat. ( for example, a bad ground connection may cause the windlass circuit to find ground through the "path of least resistance". (hope and pray the "proverbial path" is not through an expensive piece of equipment)
Running the "house" circuit separately, you can probably use 8ga depending on the rest of the equipment you have installed.
EDIT: This is just my opinion, without having ever seen your boat. I am certain Les has already installed more windlasses than I ever will. Honestly, 4 a year is a good "windlass sales" year for me. _________________ The best things in life come on a stick! |
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Sea Wolf
Joined: 01 Nov 2003 Posts: 8650 City/Region: Redding
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 1987
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Wolf
Photos: Sea Wolf
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Rabidfish-
Your numbers and wires are right on, as far as I know from all the tables, etc.
Joe. _________________ Sea Wolf, C-Brat #31
Lake Shasta, California
"Most of my money I spent on boats and women. The rest I squandered'. " -Annonymous |
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