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DayBreak



Joined: 16 Jul 2017
Posts: 1022
City/Region: Monmouth, Or.
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2018
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: DayBreak
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So sorry to hear about all of this taxation with the initial purchase or annual ownership of a C-Dory boat. In Oregon, upon the purchase of a boat or automobile, there is no tax of any kind nor any kind of taxation after ownership. Not the reason why we moved here but thought I should make mention of it.
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Captain Starbucks



Joined: 20 Oct 2011
Posts: 102
City/Region: Tacoma
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2009
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: DOUBLE BARREL
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ssobol wrote:
Captain Starbucks wrote:
.... Not sure of the state you plan on registering the boat, but IF they charge sales tax on used boats, do yourself a favor and have the seller sell you the engines separately. In fact, on a $50,000 boat, you can have the seller sell you the engines for $49,000 and the trailer for $500 and the boat with no engines for $500 so you are paying tax only on the hull part. And trailer too of course. ...


Lots of states are on to this. When I was younger it was not unheard of to buy a used car in a private sale for a very low price but pay the owner a lot of money for the owner's manual. They now use their own values on used vehicles to compute the taxes on private sales. If you want to contest their valuation you have to offer proof of the vehicle state (e.g. buying a wreck to rebuild).

In the case above, you might have to show them pictures of the boat without the engines.


Very true. Lots of states are on to this, especially Washington. That's when you pull out the receipts stating you only bought the hull. The engines, electronics, cushions, etc did not come with the boat. And, I believe I mentioned, you must be fully prepared just to walk out and try somewhere else. Pro-Tip: Don't even bother with anywhere near Seattle. This can potentially save you several thousand dollars so completely worth the BS factor.

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Current boats
2009 C-Dory TomCat 255 Yamaha F150's
1992 Gregor 14' 25hp Merc 2 stroke
12' Lund with oars
16' Grumman Ultralight canoe (in the family since 1973. I wrecked it, The Colonel made me buy it).
17' Grumman expedition

Previous boats
2001 Shamrock Mackinaw 270 Sold 2022
2012 Ranger Tug 25 - Sold 2014
1996 20' Wooldridge Xtra Plus Sold 2012
old Glasspar Super G3 17' Merc 115 2st
old Pacific Mariner 15 Merc 65 2st
old 16' Glasply with inboard jet
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Schuster



Joined: 25 Mar 2009
Posts: 181
City/Region: Port Orchard
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Sea Witch
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DayBreak,
Our two states have different taxation schedules. Your state of Oregon has a state income tax which seems to cover all the expenses of your states budget, whereas Washington state does not have a state income tax, we have sales tax which depending on the county you live in varies by a few tenths of a percent. For instance in my county (Kitsap) the sales take is 9.2% while in Seattle (king county) the tax rate is 10,1%. The reason for the difference is that the state tax is actually 6.5% across the board but city taxes make up the difference. So that is why when we in Washington state want to make a substantial purchase we will take the drive south to save on the taxes. So if you're investing in electronics to the tune of $5,000, you'll save about $500. This however does not pertain to vehicles or boats that have to be registered. If I bought a boat in Oregon I would have to pay the tax on it in Washington State where I register it. Which is why so many think of creative ways of avoiding the taxes on boats and vehicles. However now a days the state has something like a KBB which they assign a value to your purchase. Pretty sure it isn't going to be in your favor.
Having said all of that and as much as we don't like paying taxes it is a necessary tool to keep the state running and the infrastructure up to standards we all want.

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DayBreak



Joined: 16 Jul 2017
Posts: 1022
City/Region: Monmouth, Or.
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2018
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: DayBreak
Photos: DayBreak
PostPosted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Dave and thanks. You are right. I was actually born in Washington State. Washington State does not have an income tax, which is nice and people can travel here and avoid tax on general sales items. The State of Oregon has been trying for years to have a sales tax but the voters keep shooting it down. Oregon is clean, with good roads and I have gotten spoiled in not paying sales tax on small or larger purchases.
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