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Donald Tyson
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Golden era boats for sure. We love to visit Mystic and Newport every few years and one can still see the Alberg effect there. |
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Donald Tyson
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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The one thing I disliked about using a 6hp on a heavy heavy boat is not the going but rather the stopping. Getting into a slip and stopping was a trick when alone. I had to take micro adjustment to stop in time. But when underway it was quiet and pleasant. |
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gulfcoast john
Joined: 14 Dec 2012 Posts: 1044 City/Region: PENSACOLA
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2010
C-Dory Model: 255 Tomcat
Vessel Name: Cat O' Mine
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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I contend the difference is trivial...around 3 MPG for a CD 22 with 90-100 HP vs around 2 MPG for a big TC255 with 300-350 HP. We all agree on that.
The average US boat is used only 75-150 HOURS PER YEAR, and not all of that would be at cruising speeds. Do the math.
The $200,000 CD 26 for sale here for $140,000 tends to support my point.
Where our pocket yachts really excell compared to the (2023) avg Looper 45 ft boat alternative is in the cost to move it 1,000 miles. For the past 12 years we trailer 1,OOO miles to a 5 star resort marina in south FL for six weeks. At over 11.5 MPG, if diesel is $4/gallon it costs us a grand total of $420. That is 1,080 hours on the boat (not 75 hours) as if it is a 28 ft floating RV. Overall marina cost with the discount is less than staying at home.
If you want to move a 45 ft boat 1,000 miles it costs a fortune and can not be done in two days for triple that.
The ability to sling our little camper boats all over the country with a std pickup or less is what makes them a bargain...not the MPG they get on the water.
Don, consider attending the Hontoon Hoot by car and see a bunch of them side by side. We'll give you guys a ride over if the ferry is not running since we plan to stay at Hontoon Landing marina...nice rooms and cabins.
Happy Hunting!
John _________________ John and Eileen Highsmith
2010 Tom Cat 255, Cat O' Mine
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Donald Tyson
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Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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Send us info. I will be in FL only once this fall. Maybe it will work. Wife works full time. Any shows next yr?
I get the advantages to the trailerable boat but I wasn't sure if a larger boat wouldn't be more appropriate for the initial and contiguous loop. |
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flatfishfool
Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Posts: 60 City/Region: Anchorage
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 24 Tomcat
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:30 am Post subject: |
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I’ve owned 3 C-Dory’s, here are my stats:
22’ Angler with 90hp 4-stroke got 4-5mpg at 14mph cruise
22’ Cruiser with twin 40hp 4-strokes got 3.5-4.5mpg at 20mph cruise
24’ TomCat with twin 115hp 4-strokes gets 2.5-3mpg at 25mph cruise
I’m getting bigger and faster and using more fuel : ) |
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Donald Tyson
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Interesting stats.
Do you like the 24 cat? |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21469 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | If you want to move a 45 ft boat 1,000 miles it costs a fortune and can not be done in two days for triple that. |
That is only partly true. In July 2019 a 40 foot Intrepid catamaran with four 400 hp Mercury racing engines left Orange Beach at 3AM and arrived to eat lunch at about 2 PM in the keys. That took 700 gallons of fuel for 600 miles a little over 0.8 miles per gallon.--and the cost would be about $2800. The boat averaged slightly over 50 mph on that leg despite headwinds and a thunder storm with 25 knot headwinds . The second leg that day was to Port San Lucie, and the speed was kicked up to 78.9 mph at wide open throttle! (with a little poorer fuel mileage) on The Atlantic side of Florida. They arrived in time for dinner. The boat only had two people aboard, but all of the gear for 12 in the family for a week in the Bahamas. The rest of the family rode in the boat to the Abacos. The first day was 733 miles. At that rate, you could do the "loop", in just over a week! _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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flatfishfool
Joined: 11 Apr 2009 Posts: 60 City/Region: Anchorage
State or Province: AK
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 24 Tomcat
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Posted: Fri Oct 25, 2024 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Donald Tyson wrote: | Interesting stats.
Do you like the 24 cat? |
I really do. Lots of room and comforts inside and out, very stable, speed and ride is amazing in the 1-3ft stuff I might typically see on a summer outing. Less great in large head seas but that’s a universal boating experience.
I should also add my dad’s 26’ Pro Angler walkaround with single 200hp, gets low to mid 2mpg at low 20’s mph. I think it would probably do marginally better faster than this but he liked the slower pace. |
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Donald Tyson
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Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:18 am Post subject: |
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So in My 24' Carolina Skiff you just slow down and you can uncomfortably slog through anything. If a Cat gets in too big of waves do you do the same...just slow it way back and slog it out? |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21469 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
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Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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A lot depends on the peroid of the waves, as well as the height. An 8 foot swell at a peroid of30 seconds is an up and down ride, but does not slow you down.
The cat excels in short steep chop up to about 2 1/2 feet. We had 3' chop in our bay from "northers" up to 50 mph of breeze--where it is about 12 miles from the ICW to our house. In that case with a very sort period--lets say 8 seconds, we would go faster to be sure to have kept as much of an air cushion as possible. We crank the speed up to about 35 mph and get on top of the waves--so in that situation faster is better.
The Tom Cat does not have enough tunnel clearance. My Caracal cat has about 6" of tunnel clearance at rest, and it does not close the tunnel. Thus it rides as well or sometimes better than the longer Tom Cat 255.
The Tom Cat does not do well at slow speeds into chop--lots of "slam" and spray flying... |
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