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geodans
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 Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:59 pm Post subject: 23 Cape Cruiser HID |
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Anyone out there familiar, have any knowledge of HID GKX23019A606?
I understand the coding, I'm just asking if anyone here has ever owned or has knowledge of who might have owned this boat or has knowledge of any work done to it? Thanks! |
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RobMcClain
Joined: 21 May 2012
Posts: 357
City/Region: Summerlin, NV
State or Province: NV
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: Freedom
Photos: Freedom
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| Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Does the boat have a name, or can you describe it? |
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geodans
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| Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| '06 Cape Cruiser - Sea Star* |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003
Posts: 21448
City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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| Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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I ran the boat name and HIN on "our member list" and there is no 23 with that name or HIN listed. It is possible that the owner did not list the boat there, but it also shows the importance of listing your boat under its name and HIN.
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Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
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geodans
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| Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Bob!
Do you know how many cape cruisers are accounted for? and of those what the highest number is? |
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Big dave
Joined: 20 Aug 2005
Posts: 268
City/Region: Vancouver
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Raven Dancer
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| Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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My best friend owned a 2006 CC had a 115hp Yamaha & 9.9 Yamaha kicker on it. Had a single burner Wallas stove if I remember correctly it was blue & white.
We fished it quite often in the Columbia, and took it to the Broughtns a couple times.
If it’s the same boat my friend bought it new in California and had it shipped to his home in Hockinson WA. Kept it in his shop when not in use, he is a mechanic (retired) and did all the motor maintenance himself.
He kept it for 4 or 5 years and sold it to someone up Mt. Vernon way, but I’m not positive about that.
Good luck
Big Dave
Raven Dancer. |
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geodans
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| Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks Dave. if it'd the same boat it sounds like it had a good start, |
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CC Rider
Joined: 19 Nov 2013
Posts: 164
City/Region: Tsawwassen
State or Province: BC
C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: CC Rider
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 11:55 am Post subject: |
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I have a 2006 CC, HIN # GXK23015K606.
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geodans
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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That's awesome! IMHO you definitely win the CC name competition!!
Have you had any water intrusion issues under the floor? if so has it ever caused any other damage? wet core etc? |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003
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City/Region: Pensacola
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | This company (Cape Cruiser Boat Works) is owned by William Sterner and is located at P.o. Box 3834 in Kent state of Wa. It manufactured this vessel and placed your HIN or CIN on the hull. This Boat maker is not owned by a parent company. Cape Cruiser Boat Works has started making boats, yachts or other watercraft as of 2/28/2005 and went out of business on (8/15/2007) in the following country: USA. |
The highest HIN for Cape Cruiser listed was 43. There are some 3pm and 37 listed. It is not clear if there were actual hulls which were acquired by CDory which were complete--or if any hulls were rebadged as C Dory, "Venture 23" with the CDO prefix.
I suspect that there were less than 43, because some build slots are left unfilled, and not always in sequence. After the builder was served the papers, I believe that construction of new boats was haulted. |
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geodans
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| very interesting, I dont know the nitty gritty details, but from a consumers stand point it's a shame that CC was not allowed to continue in competition with C Dory... maybe pay license fee or? but again, I know nothing of their disputes. |
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DayBreak
Joined: 16 Jul 2017
Posts: 1019
City/Region: Monmouth, Or.
State or Province: OR
C-Dory Year: 2018
C-Dory Model: 23 Venture
Vessel Name: DayBreak
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| geodans wrote: | | very interesting, I dont know the nitty gritty details, but from a consumers stand point it's a shame that CC was not allowed to continue in competition with C Dory... maybe pay license fee or? but again, I know nothing of their disputes. |
Basically, Cape Cruiser was built after Ben Toland sold the C-Dory company. Ben continued to build boats and his design and build was too close to the boat company that he just sold. With a non-competition clause in the agreement when he sold C-Dory, he was sued and the penalty in the court case was such that he had to give up the Cape Cruiser hull molds to C-Dory as a penalty.
We took a tour of the Cape Cruiser factory back in 2006 when it was located in Kent, Wa. at the time. Here we are today with the original Cape Cruiser hull, designed by Ben Toland and the boat is a 2018 C-Dory, 23 Venture Sport.
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geodans
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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so non compete clause notwithstanding, C-Dory ate the competition... I wonder if the same ruling would be returned today..
What happened to Ben? |
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JamesTXSD
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Posts: 7483
City/Region: from island boy to desert dweller
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C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: "Wild Blue" (sold 9/14)
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| geodans wrote: | so non compete clause notwithstanding, C-Dory ate the competition... I wonder if the same ruling would be returned today..
What happened to Ben? |
Not really. The economy was about to hit the skids (2008), the then current C-Dory company over-produced for the somewhat limited market (courtesy of a guy at the top who had done that at Bayliner), they put a bunch of $$ into developing a boat that was not popular with their core customer base (the C-Dory 29, with an inboard diesel), they discontinued factory direct sales and service, and then got into the lawsuit with Ben Toland and Cape Cruiser... the result: C-Dory got the Cape Cruiser molds, then they tanked. It was a bad situation for all involved.
C-Dory went through a couple different owners before landing where it is now.
This is just one guy's opinion, but selling a company, signing a non-compete, and then building a product that is so close to the original was a crap move. There was also a situation where employees at C-Dory were secretly working for and/or helping Cape Cruiser get started. The design for CC was obviously based on the classic C-Dory design and look, with what some considered slightly more modern improvements. For the owners of C-Dory at the time, the molds for the CC23 and 26 did nothing to help them... it was just an attempt to stop CC from taking a piece of that niche market. Lose-Lose. |
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geodans
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| Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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I get what you're saying. you agree to non compete and then you do, on the surface looks like a bad faith move.
Ive learned that there is always a few more sides to every story. Obvious questions would revolve around: Was C dory living up to their side of the agreement? who advised them that it was an OK move to start producing the CC and why? I can't see anyone saying "Thanks for all the money and now I'm going to break the contract cause that's the way I roll" Most people have "reasons and justifications". Obviously there was lots of loyalty from the workers so that tells me there was more to the story. Making a bad move on your own in one thing, having a whole crew helping you looks like something else was going on.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not on any "side", it's just an interesting story so I'm curious about how it all turned out the way it did. |
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