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gaultzie@yahoo.com
Joined: 19 Apr 2023 Posts: 12 City/Region: Carlton
State or Province: MN
C-Dory Year: 1986
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 2:26 pm Post subject: 60hp |
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I couldn't find a group just talking about motors so I am posting here. I purchased a 1986 22 ft Fisherman yesterday. It came with 1995 Yamaha 70 hp 2 stroke and 15 hp 4 stroke kicker 1998. I own a Tahatsu 2021 60 hp 4 stroke with 10 hours. Wondering if anyone could give me advice on putting the 60 as my main motor.
Any comments would be appreciated. |
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Salmon Fisher
Joined: 07 Aug 2009 Posts: 810 City/Region: Arlington
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Kim Christine
Photos: Kim Christine
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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The 60 hp Tohatsu may work out just fine on that hull.
Spoke with Steve about the boat and it sure is in nice shape and well outfitted. _________________ Patrick and Kim Walker
2004 25 Cruiser-Present
2000 22 Cruiser 2009-2014 (Sold)
2006 25 Cruiser 2014-2019 (Sold)
1985 22 Classic -2019 (Sold)
1991 19 Arima Sea Ranger-2019-2021 (Sold)
2015 27 Ranger Tug-2019-2023 (Sold)
1987 22 Cruiser -2021-2023 (Sold)
Honey, this REALLY will be my last boat, honest! |
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oldguy83
Joined: 22 Mar 2013 Posts: 44 City/Region: minnesota
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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I had a 1985 with 90hp worked great loaded,60 hp light ,flat water my due but you would happier with more. |
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starcrafttom
Joined: 07 Nov 2003 Posts: 7887 City/Region: marysville
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 1984
C-Dory Model: 27 Cruiser
Vessel Name: to be decided later
Photos: Susan E
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Depends on what your expectations are. What do you plan to do with the boat? just day fish and go swimming? Then yes it will work but your going to have a top speed around 16mph?? Not going to run in the 20s unless your lightly loaded. If you want to go cruising and take a bit of stuff you will be slower but if your a 10 mph guy then that works. My rule is to get as much power as you can for the same weight. I would run a 90 or a 115hp. Take a look at all the newer motors and go for the most hp and lightest weight. In this day and age there are not bad motors just what is more designed for you. Sell both motors you have and get something new and you will never have to worry about it. _________________ Thomas J Elliott
http://tomsfishinggear.blogspot.com/ |
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Hunkydory
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2660 City/Region: Cokeville, Wyoming
State or Province: WY
C-Dory Year: 2000
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Hunkydory
Photos: Hunkydory-Jay-and-Jolee
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Most likely you would be happier with more hp, but due to altitude hp loss our 80 hp Hondas were only putting out 61 hp on Yellowstone Lake & worked ok with a 10 pitch props. Even with a fairly heavy load it would do 19 mph wide open & cruise fine between 13 & 16 mph, so if you don’t mind the slower speed cruising & don’t want to go through the hassle & cost of another higher hp motor it might work out for you.
On edit, I do have permitrims & trim tabs also there’s a difference between our 2000 cruiser & your 1985 angler & I don’t know if that would make it better, worse or the same for you, compared to me.
Jay _________________ Jay and Jolee 2000 22 CD cruiser Hunkydory
I will not waste my days in trying to prolong them------Jack London
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gaultzie@yahoo.com
Joined: 19 Apr 2023 Posts: 12 City/Region: Carlton
State or Province: MN
C-Dory Year: 1986
C-Dory Model: 22 Angler
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the great insight.
I'd love to put Tahatsu's new 115 on it but boat tapped me out for this year. |
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Foggy
Joined: 01 Aug 2013 Posts: 1521 City/Region: Traverse City; Northern Lake Michigan
State or Province: MI
C-Dory Year: 2014
C-Dory Model: 26 Venture
Vessel Name: Boatless in Boating Paradise
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2023 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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I've always gone with the max HP recommended by the Mfg. Why?
Larger engine(s), under load, work less than smaller engines. What's dat?
It translates in, all other things equal, potential longevity of your engine(s).
Plus, smaller twin engines despite 2X maintenance, offer many advantages
over a big single engine. Gas misers may disagree, but boating is not exactly
a penny pinching recreation.
Aye. _________________ "I don't want any cake" - said no one ever.
If someone tells you they don't eat cake, unfriend them. You don't need that kind of negativity in your life. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20829 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2023 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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Lots of good advice, and better resale value is also a feature when you decide to sell the boat. The 1986 C Dory 22, is the original flat bottom hull. These will plane slightly faster than the minimal dead rise boats after 1987.
Many times it is important to look at the displacement of various outboards. Remember the more torque, as well as hp is important (and rarely given).
1986 Johnson 70 hp. 56,1 cu in. (most common engine on new boats 1986.)
1995 70 hp Yamaha: 51.8 current engine
Your 60 Tohatsu: 52.9 cu in.
2023 Honda 60 hp: 61.0.cu in.
2023 Honda 45 & 50: 49.4 cu în.
2023 75 & 90 Honda: 91.4 cu în.
Based on this I suspect that your Tohatsu will give very close to the same performance as the current 2 stroke Yamaha. If you put on the Tohatsu, you will have to some re-rigging--probably binnacle and gauges, so that is a cost. You will have a more economical and reliable engine.
Is the current engine running well--and how many hours? You may get some reasonable resale on this motor if in good shaped, but it is over 25 years old. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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