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jkidd
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 1674 City/Region: Northern, Utah
State or Province: UT
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Voyager
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Hunkydory
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 2722 City/Region: Cokeville, Wyoming
State or Province: WY
C-Dory Year: 2000
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Hunkydory
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Jody, I don’t have one yet, but it’s the choice of one of my sons for his jeep & off road trailer, where his cargo space is very limited. There are several YouTube videos showing its effectiveness.
I think I remember you already having one on the boat.
Jay _________________ Jay and Jolee 2000 22 CD cruiser Hunkydory
I will not waste my days in trying to prolong them------Jack London
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ssobol
Joined: 27 Oct 2012 Posts: 3580 City/Region: SW Michigan
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C-Dory Year: 2008
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: SoBELLE
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Element fire extinguisher |
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Seems counterintuitive to set off a pyrotechnic device when things are already on fire.
How well does it work in a breeze (i.e. could you use it to fight a fire on your outboard engine)?
What do you do with it when the fire is out but the extinguisher is still burning?
It doesn't seem to shoot very far. How close to the fire do you need to be for this to work? |
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SeaSpray
Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 1009 City/Region: Brentwood, CA
State or Province: CA
C-Dory Year: 2004
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Vessel Name: SeaSpray
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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As with most safety items there are many views and things to consider. The Element looks good for longevity and easy to store, but you might not want to get rid of the traditional fire extinguishers.
Another view here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Oy9qD-W58g
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jkidd
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 1674 City/Region: Northern, Utah
State or Province: UT
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Voyager
Photos: Voyager (JK)
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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Pros and cons to everything. I like that it doesn't expire and there is no maintenance. Size and weight is also nice and it doesn't leave a mess. For right now it doesn't have Coast Guard approval so you would still have to carry one that does. They come in 30, 50 and 100 second sizes. The gas hangs around and stops flareups. If you were using in the wind any fire extinguisher going to have some issues. Here another video were they us it to put out a fire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUR6zrz3DYU
Jay I have a 100 second one on order for over landing, I don't have one in the boat yet. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 21469 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Here is content information on what appears to be identical but for sale in the UK and imported from Argentina.
There are some health risks with the Potassium Nitrate type of fire extinguishers, especially in close spaces.
Another type of extinguisher I keep in my vehicles, kitchen, and galley in the boat are the "First Alert (Kiddie) EZ Fire Spray . This is low to no residue, and gives 32 seconds of spray. I keep the dry powder and a CO2 extinguishers in my vehicles as well. Consider that even though you may not have a fire in your vehicle or boat--but that you may arrive on a scene where there is a fire on another boat or vehicle. I have used my fire extinguishers to suppress fire to help people out of both their vehicles and out of boats.
We often don't think of the fire risk in our boats. But if you follow the boat accident literature, there are significant fires even in long distance cruising sail boats to make you be very aware. In the larger boats we have used automatic fire suppression systems in the engine room and any other machinery space. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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jkidd
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 1674 City/Region: Northern, Utah
State or Province: UT
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Voyager
Photos: Voyager (JK)
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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From their FAQs
* DOES ELEMENT REQUIRE SERVICE & DOES IT EXPIRE?
Element's solid construction, no moving parts, and lack of compressed gas (unlike a traditional fire extinguisher) means it will never need any service or upkeep. In addition the solid chemical that makes up the Element extinguisher has no effective expiration.
* IS ELEMENT AFFECTED BY EXTREME WEATHER & CAN IT GET WET? CAN I STORE IT IN MY CAR?
Element has been tested to work effectively in temperatures from -140F to +320F. Moreover Element's solid construction and no moving parts makes it unaffected by harsh environments or humidity. Element can safely be stored in damp and wet environments, provided that the yellow cap covering the tip stays present allowing the tip to remain dry. Element can safely be stored in vehicles that live in hot climates.
* WHERE IS ELEMENT MADE?
Element is designed and manufactured in Italy.
* IS ELEMENT CERTIFIED?
Originating in Italy, Element has been certified by CE Europe, TUV, and the RINA maritime authority. Institutionally it has been tested and certified for use by multiple international military and police groups who have adopted it for active use.
* IS THE GAS SAFE TO BREATHE?
Element's discharge is safe to breathe and is both non-corrosive and non-toxic. General safe practices are always recommended and the discharge should not be aimed at a person's face.
* DOES ELEMENT MAKE A MESS LIKE A TRADITIONAL EXTINGUISHER?
Element's discharge gas is totally clean and will not leave any residue. During discharge a chemical reaction does take place which occasionally expels a trace amount of soot from the casing. Even in the most extreme instance, the net total of discharge is so minuscule compared to a traditional extinguisher that it is effectively considered to be non-existent. Beyond the clean nature of the discharge Elements non-corrosive, non-toxic, and environmentally safe. |
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