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SnowTexan



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:36 pm    Post subject: Single burner alcohol stove recommendation Reply with quote

Well 4 nights of cooking over a fire resulted in great trout tacos on Lake Chelan, but when you live in a wildfire area you sometimes want hot coffee in the morning and dinner at night without smelling like death and destruction. Our enjoyable campfire days are over until the snow falls! Day one of our most recent trip and the butane canister in our kenyon was hissing like a bull snake and the cabin smelled like butane. Poor culinary conditions.

After reading up on these stoves (as well as diesel or propane options) i’ve decided to go to a single burner alcohol stove for the following reasons: low initial cost, pot stability, shore portable, easy fuel storage and availability, zero battery requirement, no bucket of mini bombs in the cockpit just one large molotov instead 😳.

What’s the current go-to for unpressurized single burner alcohol stoves in 2022? We’d love induction in the future. Possibly with a boatwide electronic refit. Thanks!


Edit to add: heater is a webasto and it is great!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Single burner alcohol stove recommendation Reply with quote

SnowTexan wrote:
... for the following reasons: low initial cost, pot stability, shore portable, easy fuel storage and availability, zero battery requirement, ...


When my Kenyon expired, I went with two single canister butane stoves for the reasons listed above. They are two different sizes so I can use one or the other or both depending on the requirements of the current task.

The mini bombs are still onboard though, but they are smaller than the propane bombs.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Kenyon stoves have a history of leaky seals and fire in places that fire don't belong! I found a better setup by pulling that unit out of the boat, and putting a butcher block in it's place. Allows for a lot more usable counter space. Then purchased a small portable butane stove that we can use on top the butcher block, or anywhere else we desire. Colby
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had an Origo alcohol stove in my last 2 previous boat and was very please with it. It's a bit slower than a pressurised system but will still boil water and cook just fine, just doesn't get quite as hot but then you have a very safe stove and fuel on board. I'm not sure if they is anything newer that compare.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We use the original Origo alcohol stove that came in our boat and love it. I read that Dometic bought out Origo but don’t know if they sell a new alcohol stove. This last trip we also brought a jet boil for quick coffee in the morning. Ken
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replies! We’ve had trouble locating Butane on multiple occasions now, and would like to get away from compressed fuels indoors as well as disposable containers and poor cold weather performance. Definitely looking for alcohol stoves. It looks like the Origo is a winner but no longer in production. “Google hunting” now for comparable stoves in that style. I could always build something with a backpacking alcohol stove i suppose? Coasties probably love a good diy stove!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well i just, because i’m sort of obsessive about my coffee and safety, decided to test a renogy 2k watt inverter with a 100ah AGM and my electric kettle. Total success. 8-9amp 120v draw through the inverter and cooling fans did kick in but no excessive cable heat (slightly warm to the touch). So maybe we’ll be ditching flammable fuels on board much sooner than expected…. The kettle is absolutely perfect for coffee/oats etc. for more serious cooking i have a question about induction: can the wattage be lowered to reduce momentary battery discharge or does an induction burner blast on and off to obtain proper temps? What are actual useage watts? If We could cook around 1k watts, 200ah of battery would be a lot of cooking
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Induction: We used induction on the C Dory for 3+ years. We started with using it off the 1000 watt Honda generator, and in that case, we were running about 640 watts on medium.

We used a Kill-O-Watt, meter to see what the induction burner drew.

We continued to use that with the 2 LI Fe PO4 batteries, and a 2000 watt PSW Victron inverter. Worked very well. Could use on a 1000 watt inverter on mid power--and that is plenty.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thataway wrote:
Induction: We used induction on the C Dory for 3+ years. We started with using it off the 1000 watt Honda generator, and in that case, we were running about 640 watts on medium.

We used a Kill-O-Watt, meter to see what the induction burner drew.

We continued to use that with the 2 LI Fe PO4 batteries, and a 2000 watt PSW Victron inverter. Worked very well. Could use on a 1000 watt inverter on mid power--and that is plenty.


That helps and is good info, thank you!
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