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zuunami



Joined: 10 Aug 2021
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City/Region: Fort Bragg
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C-Dory Year: 2006
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Oh Buoy!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:33 pm    Post subject: Seatbox on 2006 cruiser 16 Reply with quote

Newbie - don't understand the design of the seatboxes on our 2006 16' cruiser - toward the bow is open, so if a lot of water goes toward the bow between the seats while fishing, or whatever, it will then enter under the box, and the little weep hole toward the aft is well above the bottom of the deck inside the box, so any water will just sit there. Is there any reason not to seal off the box completely toward the bow?

[img]http://www.c-brats.com/modules.php?set_albumName=zuunami&id=K01_1639&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php[/img]

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zuunami



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(still figuring out how to post photos Smile

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lloyds



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C-Dory Year: 1996
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always planned to do that but never did. Really annoying.
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JDrew



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City/Region: Mad River Valley
State or Province: VT
C-Dory Year: 2002
C-Dory Model: 16 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Treasure
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like your seat box is glassed to the floor? On our 16 they're riveted down, and water could run right out the back onto the floor if some got in the front space. Ours is an "02, maybe they changed things by "06?
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Marco Flamingo



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine is an '04 and "had" rivets. Check out my photo album under "Balsa Core Issues" and see how I fixed that. Removal of the seat boxes and integral cockpit liners allowed for some extra storage (and a diesel heater in my case).
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zuunami



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City/Region: Fort Bragg
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, the front and sides are glassed in, but not the end toward the bow. Thinking about a fix using a siliconed in garage door seal, or someone pm'd a fix with pipe insulation that was pretty handy. Right now, I want just a temp fix that I can take out later easily, since there is at least a foot of 3" tall space that could easily get very moldy in our weather, so I want to keep an eye on that before a permanent closure. But will definitely be closing up the weep holes toward the aft, they're pretty useless I think Smile The whole thing seems pretty sloppily put together to me, the edges are rough, etc.. But we still love the boat Smile

this photo is the starboard box from the bow

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zuunami



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

btw, Marco, looked at your album, what a lot of work!!! We knew going in to look for balsa core intrusion issues, but not sure you can ever be sure. Looks like it all turned out alright for you, tho?
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Marco Flamingo



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My seat boxes don't hold water as it can still leak out under the cockpit coaming. If I had your situation I would be tempted to leave the front open and drill a weep hole (after seeing where the water sits). Might need to be hand finished in order to ensure not penetrating the top fiberglass layer of the cockpit sole. Probably not that important to get every drop out. And if you did penetrate the cockpit sole to the point where you see balsa, some thickened epoxy would fix that.

Water can get in under my seats, but I have some Azek shelving that keeps canned goods out of any water. Other items are in Seal-a-Meal type packages. Of course, most people don't have 10 days of food aboard.

I actually have some use for the front of the seat boxes being open. I keep two canoe paddles on board (even when solo) and slide them up under the V berth. The handles then slip back under the front seat box opening to keep them under control in rough seas. Never had to use the paddles and they probably would be best used waving them in the air to signal for help.
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zuunami



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We don't really want it open in the back, but that's why we're doing a semi temporary closure until we know for sure. We always have heavy condensation around here, so water builds up anywhere possiible Smile
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Safetythird



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zuunami wrote:
(still figuring out how to post photos Smile



What rod holder is that?
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zuunami



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Safetythird, don't know, will look tomorrow and let you know Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So did a try in of a dam for the front of the box seats out of a piece of vinyl garage door seal that has about a one inch flexible piece on the bottom that can be sealed to the deck, then I think we'll just keep the space between the top of that and the bottom of the seatbox top for airflow. And of course fit it in better and caulk around the side edges, etc.



And then, I checked the inside of the boxes again, and there's about a 1/4 inch of water on both sides, toward the mid-aft corner of each, just drainage from all of our condensation here, but still. I put a small screwdriver under the box on each side, and it slides in over an inch toward the center, that's a lot of space for water to collect. Thinking about caulking that in, but the water will just back up further. Hmmmm Smile am I being too picky?

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zuunami



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Safetythird, in answer to your earlier question about the rod holder, it's a Fish On brand, came with the boat
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

zuunami wrote:
Safetythird, in answer to your earlier question about the rod holder, it's a Fish On brand, came with the boat


Thanks!
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