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Ken O
Joined: 05 Mar 2014 Posts: 110 City/Region: West Yellowstone
State or Province: MT
C-Dory Year: 1990
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Ravens' Roost
Photos: Ravens’ Roost
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Lots of good information here. Thanks a bunch! I will be back at the boat next week. I will experiment and report. |
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Moxieabs
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 208 City/Region: Cape Neddick
State or Province: ME
C-Dory Year: 2003
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Widget
Photos: Widget
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Posted: Thu Aug 05, 2021 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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The choke is an electric solenoid operated all or nothing choke. If you lift the fast idle/choke lever with the ignition on you will here the click of the solenoid at the last bit of lever travel. Backing off, the choke is released and the idle is held fast and controlled as you lower the lever you lower the idle. I find stuffing a key ring float under the lever gives a good speed to warm-up the engine while attending lines etc prior to leaving the dock/mooring, at least here in Maine. Be sure to remove the float or you will be unable to shift into gear(don't ask). _________________ Moxieabs on WIDGET |
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PaulNBriannaLynn
Joined: 26 Oct 2012 Posts: 757 City/Region: Fort White
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: TBD
Photos: Lorelei
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:37 am Post subject: |
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2007 BF90 was fuel injected. You either don't have a carb, or you have a 2006 or prior engine which is a totally different design than the Vtec fuel injected engines from 2007 and later.
If it's carbed it has a lever to the right side of the throttle you need to raise when starting the engine. It should be normal for it to take a few rotations for it to fire when its cold. All the carbed honda 90s Ive run have acted like that. If it runs great once it finally starts, and starts right up once its warmed up.. the engines just cold blooded and I wouldn't mess with it. _________________ 2007 22 cruiser sold 10/2021
2009 Parker 23 sold 10/2017
2003 22 cruiser sold 3/2016 |
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Ken O
Joined: 05 Mar 2014 Posts: 110 City/Region: West Yellowstone
State or Province: MT
C-Dory Year: 1990
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Ravens' Roost
Photos: Ravens’ Roost
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 11:39 am Post subject: |
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It definitely has 4 carbs. I was given the wrong info on the year then... Thanks for the info. |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20803 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2021 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | September 13, 2006 – Honda Motor Co., Ltd. introduced today the all-new BF90 and BF75 medium-sized*1 4-stroke marine outboard engines. The two new models will go on sale through Honda’s outboard dealers in Japan on November 1, 2006
Developed on the base of the 1.5-liter engine of the Honda Fit automobile, the new engines feature Honda’s PGM-FI programmed fuel injection system and lean-burn combustion, and VTEC*3. They also boast the world’s first ignition timing governed by BLAST*4 (Boosted Low Speed Torque) air/fuel ratio technology and other advanced electronic control devices Battery charging capacity has been more than doubled to a class-leading 35 amperes. |
The problem was getting the motors to the US dealers. So some 90's which were sold in 2007 still had carburetors. _________________ Bob Austin
Thataway
Thataway (Ex Seaweed) 2007 25 C Dory May 2018 to Oct. 2021
Thisaway 2006 22' CDory November 2011 to May 2018
Caracal 18 140 Suzuki 2007 to present
Thataway TomCat 255 150 Suzukis June 2006 thru August 2011
C Pelican; 1992, 22 Cruiser, 2002 thru 2006
Frequent Sea; 2003 C D 25, 2007 thru 2009
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Home port: Pensacola FL |
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drbridge
Joined: 25 Jun 2014 Posts: 218 City/Region: Sequim
State or Province: WA
C-Dory Year: 2004
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Susan Marie
Photos: Susan Marie
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:34 am Post subject: |
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On our 2004 carbed BF 90A with Binnacle control the choke was operated by pushing in on the ignition key. Push in while cranking for choke. Once it fires off, tap it a couple more times to keep it running until it is warm enough to run on it's own. _________________ Doug & Susan |
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Ken O
Joined: 05 Mar 2014 Posts: 110 City/Region: West Yellowstone
State or Province: MT
C-Dory Year: 1990
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Ravens' Roost
Photos: Ravens’ Roost
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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Back at the boat...Solenoid works fine, primer bulb needed a couple of pumps to get solid. Now that I realize that the choke control at the helm is only yes/no and I can't play it like a manual choke, I have starting figured out. Thanks for all the help and "case closed." |
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Ken O
Joined: 05 Mar 2014 Posts: 110 City/Region: West Yellowstone
State or Province: MT
C-Dory Year: 1990
C-Dory Model: 22 Cruiser
Vessel Name: Ravens' Roost
Photos: Ravens’ Roost
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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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Back at the boat...Solenoid works fine, primer bulb needed a couple of pumps to get solid. Now that I realize that the choke control at the helm is only yes/no and I can't play it like a manual choke, I have starting figured out. Thanks for all the help and "case closed." |
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curioustraveler
Joined: 26 Apr 2019 Posts: 211 City/Region: Annapolis
State or Province: MD
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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drbridge wrote: | On our 2004 carbed BF 90A with Binnacle control the choke was operated by pushing in on the ignition key. Push in while cranking for choke. Once it fires off, tap it a couple more times to keep it running until it is warm enough to run on it's own. |
This is great...tried it today. Usually I start it, it dies, and I start it again. This time I started it and right when she was about to die I pushed down on the key for a split second. Stayed running. |
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snhstahl@gmail.com
Joined: 21 May 2021 Posts: 10 City/Region: Surry
State or Province: VA
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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Hey,
We just bought a 22 and when I went to start it the first time (boat and 90 honda 2005). I cranked it about 8 seconds, and nothing happened. I looked at the engine and immediately saw the problem. It actually had a CHOKE lever. I had no idea they had chokes as recently as 2005. Other boat has a 21st century yamaha. The 90 honda runs fine. Do you want it? A choke! That's funny. I'd rather be a smartass then a dumbass, but carburetors? |
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thataway
Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 20803 City/Region: Pensacola
State or Province: FL
C-Dory Year: 2007
C-Dory Model: 25 Cruiser
Vessel Name: thataway
Photos: Thataway
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Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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The 90 got carburetors the end of 2006. Most are 2007 on up models. Yes, they may have an electric (solenoid operated) or manual choke. Depends on rigging and Binnacle. Also the newer 90's had higher alternator output. |
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